To the question of whether the vitriol pushes quality people away from this site, it's obvious to anyone who socializes with vintage double enthusiasts that it does. In my small group of friends and fellow collectors, I can count over 10 who won't get involved here or have left, specifically because of "that guy". I'm asked regularly "what's the deal? Why is he still allowed on there?"

These are quality people. Who could contribute in significant ways. The site is poorer for them not being here.

It long ago stopped being about politics or gun rights. I'm as every bit anti gun regulation as Keith is. But I'm on his shit list because I largely disagree with his tactic of personal attacks.

I hang out with some Democrat voting American hunters and gun owners. Until they met me, they hung around with NO ONE who wasn't a progressive liberal. Sure there is hypocrisy in their views and voting patterns but most of us aren't perfect. The idea of completely cutting out 50% of the population because of their political views is just stupid. It doesn't matter which side is doing it. The polarization actually is a problem. So is most progressive ideology. But the solution sure isn't shunning.

Last edited by canvasback; 08/05/26 02:38 PM.
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