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I think the motivation is to simply make the forum what it is purportedly intended be, rather than some polemic dominated other thing.

The forum was decidedly different 20-25 years ago. Tho the same can be said of the world. Perhaps the present here is a reflection of the generally degraded civilized discourse currently pervasive in most things everyday.


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Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane
I think the motivation is to simply make the forum what it is purportedly intended be, rather than some polemic dominated other thing.

Since it's not my forum, my motivation stops short of trying to make it anything...but the idea is appealing.

...calling out cowardly bullies for what they are, and allowing them to expose themselves to every one further is never a bad thing.

Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane
The forum was decidedly different 20-25 years ago. Tho the same can be said of the world. Perhaps the present here is a reflection of the generally degraded civilized discourse currently pervasive in most things everyday.

There are islands of sanity out there, even for discussing things as polarizing as guns...or even fly fishing. wink


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The NRA has proven itself unreliable and corrupt. Period.
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So...it's been over 24 hours, and our member "keith" has shown his true colors several times in this discussion, and has failed to have the guts to back up his own words.

He has probably spewed a lot more hate (I didn't read what he wrote, and I doubt anyone else did either) but he's continued to show us what he is.

Exactly as expected.


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Originally Posted by keith
A whole bunch more word salad dancing around the the fact that I don't have the guts to stand behind my own words.

We get it. You're a gutless, word salad generating internet bully who wouldn't dare to say one single word of the garbage you spew to anyone's face.

That you hide behind a fake name is just part of your charm.

Thanks for continuing to show us who and what you are.


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Originally Posted by keith
More lengthy, meandering, nonsensical word salad that no one with an ounce of sense will ever read, from a bully that never evolved mentally and emotionally past about the 3rd grade and doesn't have the guts to put his money where his mouth is.

You continue to meet expectations...but not in a good way.

It is fun to watch you beat the heck out your keyboard in frustration. I"ll bet your keyboards don't last long, Larry...I mean "keith."

Please keep up the good work!


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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
This isn't an attack, so let's get that straight up front. But GR, your line of reasoning reminds me of the immigrants, legal or otherwise, who leave their country, come here, and then want to change "here" into the place they left.

I appreciate the context, and respect the argument, but I don't believe you are correct. Many, if not most people who come here would prefer to not have to deal with all the decaying matter vomited by the likes of "keith."

Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
I'm left wondering why do they leave where they were, to come here, only to try to change here into there?

If you hate the way this forum is run so badly, why do you stay?

Because there is a core of good, solid info here, and it's one of the best places to learn things quickly...but I'll guess you knew that.

Well, you seem to have made it your personal responsibility to straighten this "mess" out. BrentD did, too. He didn't succeed, or was removed, I dunno which.

I hope you find some peace about it, but the road you're on (starting threads targeting specific posters) doesn't lead to Nirvana.


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The forum was different 20-25 years ago. When I first joined, it was different people attacking each other, but I think there were more Conservatives back then.

There was even a sub-forum called Misfires where people could and did post off-topic and Political things. It often got pretty heated, and some of the feuds that persist today began back then.

However, some of the Liberal Left weenies who couldn't stand being bombarded with facts that shined an unflattering light on their anti-gun Democrats predictably cried to Dave, and started demanding that he should end the Misfires forum. Then when he finally did end it, the same crybabies wanted any access to it permanently deleted, so they could then deny their own words. Again, people of the same ilk demanded Censorship.

After they got their way, they cried like babies again when some Political and Gun Rights topics began to appear in the main DoubleGun forum. And when Dave decided to add a "2nd Amendment Informational Thread" that was Pinned to the top of the topics page, many of them cried about that too. And several of them decided that the best way to get rid of such an evil thing as a 2nd Amendment Thread in a firearms forum would be to disrupt it as often as possible, and keep up sustained crying to Dave.

Dr. Wanker made his Liberal Left points and insults heard in both Misfires and the main DoubleGun forum. I saved a lot of Misfires before it was apparently deleted, and Dr. Wankers Posts that contain his idea of civilized discourse can still be found in the archives. But it just isn't fair to go back and Post the truth... Better we should just manufacture QUOTES and post lies in order to get our way.

Anyway, here's just one small example of Dr. Wanker engaging in a polite discussion and debate with a former member who says he left due to continual attacks and Thread disruptions from the Liberal Left:

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The Werhmacht Awards Forum??? WTF is a ref to a slimeball pack of Nazi MFers that makes your post legitimate here??

Even having that link on this board is more damning than anything I'd care to see here.

JMO of course but FOAD

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This was posted by Dr.Wanker in Post # 263533 on 2/1/2012, and it's easy to find much more just like it from Liberals who think they can rewrite history.

Now here's the narcissist Dr. Wanker politely informing us that the only reason he comes to this forum is to laugh at all of the rubes and boobs he feels superior to:

Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane
"But I wanted to illuminate the sheer hypocrisy and disingenuous behavior that masquerades as civility here."

I certainly have no desire to be categorized in that manner. I have no problem saying that the inhabitants of this bbs are almost uniformity preening poseurs "collecting" insignificant and abused examples of firearms that few if any would otherwise GAF about, and massively dedicated to the "sow's ear" concept of acquisition enhancement. Whenever I need a laff this is the place I come to. Top of that list are those who post questions and ignore any answer that does not agree w/ whatever erroneous preconception they have already decided to be the case. Sort of the Darwin Awards section of the gun world.

keep up the good work

have a day

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And here's one of the Posts where Dr. Wanker, who preaches that all politics should be forbidden here, is showing his Liberal Left plumage and denigrating Trump and our NRA:

Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane
Perhaps the entire comment will clarify.

The sad truth is that the getting re-elected hinges on nothing more than a pragmatic what works and as soon as it is politically expedient gun owners will finds themselves friendless and alone - and likely gunless. Just recall that not long ago the cons controlled WH and Congress and how much good came in your direction then. The NRA has been nobody's' friend except themselves (new buildings, pay raises, etc) for decades and has done nothing to promote some rational approach to opposing the anti's. But they have managed to promote the nutcase-with-a-gun image in so effective a way that I have to wonder who they really represent.

and nothing says ReTard like Trump, et al. Or I should say "screams".


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There's lots more hypocrisy where that came from... and just think... I didn't have to be a dishonest lowlife POS and manufacture any of those QUOTES.


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Originally Posted by Geoff Roznak
So...it's been over 24 hours, and our member "keith" has shown his true colors several times in this discussion, and has failed to have the guts to back up his own words.

He has probably spewed a lot more hate (I didn't read what he wrote, and I doubt anyone else did either) but he's continued to show us what he is.

Exactly as expected.

TransGomer Joff, If you want to see my responses to your dishonest drivel in a timely manner, you should blame your friends here who successfully whined and cried enough to Dave that all of my Posting would be subject to "Moderation". Princess SKB Stevie thought this was hilarious until he/she got hit with the same sanctions. The little donations she was making to reward Dave for punishing me sure dried up in a big-ass hurry when her Posts were delayed too.

Now Dave reads every Post I make, and has no doubt learned some things about our Libtard crybabies that he might have never seen had he remained largely unaware of until he got bombarded with complaints from your Liberal friends. So to some extent, I've been able to turn sour lemons into sweet lemonade.

However, that means my Posts are delayed until Dave reads and approves them, which might be several days if he is busy. And sometimes my Posts seem to get lost, and may show up days later if I re-submit them. But rest assured I am never afraid to respond to a dishonest turd like you.

It is inconvenient, and some folks have suggested to me that I should ask Dave to repeal my Moderation. That isn't going to happen. I've learned to like Dave knowing how some of you operate and attempt to manipulate him into Turing this forum into a Liberal Left Safe House.

But I have already accepted your wager. If only you aren't too much of a coward to accept my reasonable conditions. I do find it amusing that your lies continue to run like diarrhea. You say you don't read what I wrote, yet you are offended by what you say you do not read.... just like DimmyW and Nutty Professor!


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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Well, you seem to have made it your personal responsibility to straighten this "mess" out.

Not at all. Just putting the bully in its place, and watching it thrash about and show everyone what it's true personality is.

Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
BrentD did, too. He didn't succeed, or was removed, I dunno which.


I'm afraid I don't know about that.

Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
I hope you find some peace about it, but the road you're on (starting threads targeting specific posters) doesn't lead to Nirvana.

Thanks, I'm fine. Comfy in my chair at the moment, pondering what to make for dinner, enjoying my wife's company and being stared at by a Setter that wants to go out. I should go take care of the latter. wink


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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
I'm left wondering why do they leave where they were, to come here, only to try to change here into there?

If you hate the way this forum is run so badly, why do you stay?

Stan, many of us have been here a lot longer than Keith and do not appreciate him turning it into his own toilet. We come here to discuss and learn about double guns, not to be smeared with feces flung by the mentally ill.

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