I bought from the Upper Sandusky Ithaca (present company) two guns. First was a 28 ga. M37 I bought directly from Ithaca over 15 years ago which I still shoot and a 20 ga. Turkey Slayer M37 which I bought a little later in 2011 and I gave it to a friend. Very few of the 28 gauges were made. I paid under $1K for the 28 ga. with upgraded wood. This was the first time Ithaca built a 28 ga. pump. Early M37 guns made in Ithaca NY while highly desirable can be bought relatively inexpensively compared to the new guns. Gil