Originally Posted by ClapperZapper
P&V make best quality guns.
They don’t give them away.

However, in making the choice to purchase a dedicated target gun,

I recommend trying a whole bunch of different ones in different configurations until you find the one that swings the way you like.

There are about five or six different brands, used at peak, competitive levels. They are all just a little bit different in how they move, and within those, there will be one that you like above the others.

I started with a Sarzilmaz, moved on to a few Brownings, Beretta’s, then in comparison to Perazzi Mx2000, or Caesar Guerini Invictus m-Spec, I went with CG.
Tried pretty much every sub 15k variety out there with factory std stock,
I didn’t want to totally change how I shoot, I just wanted to shoot better with more reliability and easier opportunity for repair. The little tweaks add up after a certain point.

Great approach.

I've been shooting my AyA 53 at clays for years. It works, but I feel like there's better.

I bought a virtually new Superposed last year, just because I've always like them...and I shoot it better at clays than the AyA. Go figure. wink

One of the guns I picked up from auctions is a full-on clays gun from Miroku, a model MK-70; it the same gun sold in the US as the Browning 525. I haven't shot it yet, but I really like how it feels.

...then I got the Zoli I mentioned above - and I'm thoroughly impressed. I expected it to be barrel heavy and to just flip it quickly for some easy $$$ (it's brand new in the case) but it's dead neutral, substantial at 8 lbs., 4 oz., but faster handling like I prefer. It's also built like a tank. I couldn't shoot enough clays in the rest of my life to wear this thing out.

I anxious to shoot the MK-70 and the Zoli...I have a couple of opportunities coming up. I'm going to leave all the "usual suspects" at home so I don't drift back to them and see how I do.


Originally Posted by keith
The NRA has proven itself unreliable and corrupt. Period.