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most of the special guns that were once in my hands...

are now in the hands of others...

as it should be...

the joy of special things is the knowledge...

that they are now bringing joy to others...


keep it simple and keep it safe...
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My special "pair", Browning BSS-SL 12 & 20 ga.
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Originally Posted by Karl Graebner
My special "pair", Browning BSS-SL 12 & 20 ga.
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Karl,
If you need an heir, I could put that 20 to some “special use” when you are done with it.

Nice wood, too.

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Ted,
Oddly enough, the 12 ga. has seen the vast majority of the birds and targets that I've shot, so maybe. The 20 ga. was purchased just because! My "barbeque gun" is my12 ga. Churchill, purchased because I just had to have an English sxs.
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That 20 would make an awfully nice companion to my BSS 12!! My BSS 20 Boxlock just does not complement the 12 like this one would. Hint, Hint!!!


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BSS? Hey! I have one of those 20 gauge- brand new, still in the box and it has never been fired! 😂 And by the way.....beautiful guns, Karl!!

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Originally Posted by Jimmy W
BSS? Hey! I have one of those 20 gauge- brand new, still in the box and it has never been fired! 😂 And by the way.....beautiful guns, Karl!!


A regular BSS boxlock - as much as some people like them - isn't ever going to be collectable, or worth much. Better to take it out and use it.

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No. I am saving it to give someone special. I don't want to give someone a used present. And I forgot to mention around here new in the box BSS go for about three grand. 👍

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Originally Posted by Geoff Roznak
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BSS? Hey! I have one of those 20 gauge- brand new, still in the box and it has never been fired! 😂 And by the way.....beautiful guns, Karl!!


A regular BSS boxlock - as much as some people like them - isn't ever going to be collectable, or worth much. Better to take it out and use it.

Preach it. Pass it along to this guy, too:

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=677003#Post677003

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Karl, that’s a really nice EJ Churchill XXV. I always thought a Churchill XXV shotgun would be the perfect forest grouse gun re: short barrels for quick instinctive shooting.

Lloyd, For me I’m a history guy, I like seeing the old Colonial trade firearms at gunshows. To me they are very special, a tangible piece of history. I have one, a lower grade Clabrough and Johnstone, dated circa 1920. In the book 'Trade Guns of the Hudson Bay Company 1670-1970' by S. James Gooding, the first mention of the English breech loading shotgun is first listed in the HBC catalog dated 1896-1901. The book states that "most of the muzzle and breech loading shotguns in this period were made by the traditional London & Birmingham suppliers: Hollis, Bentley & Playfair, C.O. Bircham, C.G Bonehill (Ltd.), W.J Jeffrey & Co., T. Bland & Sons, JP Clabrough, and later JP Clabrough & Johnstone (HBC production between 1894-1920+), Joseph Bourne & Son, and Bentley & Playfair." pgs. 102-105, 147.

What date is your newly acquired 2 inch 12 gauge shotgun? You will have to look and see if it has a J.A mark stamp on the action or barrels. Apparently Joseph Asbury of Birmingham supplied most of the 2 inch gun actions and barrels to the trade between the war years. Joseph Asbury

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