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Originally Posted by dirty harry
Just buy a gun with 2 3/4in. chambers, ''Bingo'', problem solved !

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Another doofus joining the "I know what you should shoot, when you should shoot and how you should shoot better than you do " club.

How about you shoot what pleases you and Lloyd does what works for him?


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Lloyd, 2" shell, paper or plastic are reloadable in my experience either with fiber or plastic wads. I prefer roll crimping to press, but have both setups. Tabletop drill press works best for plastic but vintage hand cranked roll crimper is my set up for paper. Brent, borderbill and I have had success with 2" loading for our doubles.

A source of paper hulls for me in addition to fired rst shells was a flat of federals which I use for late season doves and cut down to 2" after firing. Ebay provided a 2" jig for use on a small $80 chop saw 2" blade (more or less) for quick trimming. The saw does double duty for making turkey yelpers. Harbor Freight has the saw. Gil

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Ted:

Yeah, hope my 16 forgives me.

Time will tell of course, comperable dimensions but this one is reportedly very light...

Couldn't help myself, I've wanted one since the first time I held one, probably 25-years ago.

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I actually find roll crimping easier than fold... I roll crimp all my water fowl loads so even in the dark I can tell a non-tx from lead..

Having a hull vise is handy but I've used a large slip pliers with a piece of leather belt to hold them in a pinch.


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I think many 2" 12G guns have chokes tending to improved cylinder and a tendency to produce uneven/patchy pattern distribution. Fibrewadding and o/s cards will contribute to that. Plastic wadding and formation of a crimp closure will help to minimise that effect.

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If anyone wants some free Federal paper 20 or 12 ga cases PM me. I save them but don’t reload. Just seem too nice to throw away.

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Originally Posted by Richard Hale
If anyone wants some free Federal paper 20 or 12 ga cases PM me. I save them but don’t reload. Just seem too nice to throw away.

That is one of the most kind offers I have seen posted on this forum in a long time.

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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
This is my setup for roll crimping. Drill press and a MEC Super Sizer. The SS does double duty. It resizes the case heads then, when bolted to the drill press table, it is the best case holder imaginable.

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Will someone be so kind as to walk me through the actual process / procedure that happens in this picture?? I am not a reloader but I am aware of the procedures. But, this drill press has me totally confused in regards to crimping the case. Any help to my understanding would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


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Going back to Lloyd's question:

Does anyone import 2.5" shells like Gamebore for example?

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Originally Posted by Perry M. Kissam
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
This is my setup for roll crimping. Drill press and a MEC Super Sizer. The SS does double duty. It resizes the case heads then, when bolted to the drill press table, it is the best case holder imaginable.

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Will someone be so kind as to walk me through the actual process / procedure that happens in this picture?? I am not a reloader but I am aware of the procedures. But, this drill press has me totally confused in regards to crimping the case. Any help to my understanding would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I posted the pic, Perry, and I will gladly explain it.

Wha you see is a .410 case being held in a MEC SuperSizer, a tool that was intended to resize the metal heads of fired shot shells, in a separate operation from the resizing station on reloading presses. It utilizes a collet that squeezes the metal all the way around at the same time. Some presses have this feature themselves, but many have a ring that the case head is pushed through, with quite some effort required sometimes to resize and eject it. When you buy one it will come in the gauge of your choice, but extra collets are available for other gauges.

In use, to resize cases, the tool is bolted to a bench top. I get extra duty out of mine by bolting it to the table of my bench top drill press, and carefully aligning it with the roll crimper which you can see in the drill press chuck. The pic above shows a case that has just been roll crimped. I have a foot switch wired into my drill press which allows me to turn the drill motor on and off while keeping both hands free.

Start to finish goes like this: a loaded but uncrimped shell is placed in the SuperSizer and my left hand gently pushes on the lever which causes the collet to grip it tightly. My right hand lowers the quill on the drill press, while my left foot has the switch depressed causing the crimper to be turning at a fairly low speed. When the crimper contacts the open case mouth I pause there a few seconds while the friction warms the case mouth, then I steadily lower the spinning crimper until I get the roll crimp completed. Then, my foot releases the drill motor switch as I release the lever and allow the collet to release the case head.

Sounds like a lot going on I know, but in practice it only requires a few seconds per round.


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