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I’m here in Germany visiting my wife’s relatives here in Shorndorf near Stuttgart. The city of Ulm is about an hour or so away and Robert Paxton was gracious enough to arrange a tour of the Krieghoff factory in Ulm next week. What is going to be Very interesting also while in Ulm is visiting the Muller Schiesszentrum Ulm. This is a very high tech all encompassing indoor shooting range. I’ve arranged to reserve a half hour of shooting in their indoor skeet/clays range. I’ll let ya’ll know what it’s like. Bis bald!
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Ulm is 1,5 hours away from Stuttgart; you change trains once, in Stuttgart. In Ulm, you will visit the Ulmer Münster of course. If you are technically interested, you might try to arrange for an audience with the director of the Ulm proof office, which is only a few foot minutes away from the MSZ. Also, I encourage you to acquire a state shooting medal for hunters there (Landesbüchsennadel, Landeskeilernadel). It is not really difficult, and will add some flair to your US hunting outfit. Can be worn on the hat or on the breast: https://mszu.de/schiessstaende/schiessnachweis/See the pull-down menus. If you are a member of the German Gun Collectors Association, you must see Mr. Warkus at Frankonia Jagd in Stuttgart. He is the last scion of the Eblen family, the famous Waffen-Eblen. For Germans, that once was one of the great firms and gun houses of national repute, like Barella, Otto Bock, Foerster, Lueneburg... For Americans, they purveyed guns to Hermann Göring. And if you want to invite your in-laws to dine out, it's Malathounis in Kernen-Stetten. The cuisine is unique, the Michelin star merited. The wine list is among the best and most interesting in Baden-Württemberg (only the Alte Weinsteige in Stuttgart has a deeper one), and you must try a bottle of Hatzidakis (Santorini). Regards, Carcano
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Have a great time!! 😊
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Try not to come home with another Krieghoff Bill  112 a few days ago with dew point 62%; to 'only' be 105 today  Stay safe.
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Now there's a funny coincidence..
My neighbour just dropped off some old live ammo to me and after pulling the bullets it turns out they were 6,5x52 Carcanos with a copy of cordite named Solenite inside which was still in good condition, the out sides were all green corrosion and the bullets had begun to rust as they were steel jackets but copper washed.
The heat over here in Bavaria is very high at the moment 37C/98F.
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No, Solenite has nothing to do with Cordite, it is a pure nitrocellulose powder with nigh unlimited shelflife, one of the best military propellants ever. However, and sadly, the shelflife of Italian military primers *is* a problem.
You may have had its predecessor in mind, namely Ballistite (which was used only up to 1895 in the 6,5x52 Carcano, and from 1938-1940 in the 7,35x51 Carcano, plus in blanks for either cartridge). This one is quite comparable to Chopped Cordite.
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This powder is the small brown tubes with holes through the center. The ammo had steel instead of tombac/gilding so sure to be WW2 production and so I believe it to be Solenite. The averaged out load was 36.3 grains over 15 cartridges. WMH.
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35.4
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36.1
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7.2 my mistake measuring
59.3 my mistake measuring
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I was at first shocked about the - seemingly - rather sizeable discrepancy in powder metering (from 34,6 to 36,4 grains). But then I began to think. ;-)
A standard military powder, like Cordite, Solenite or the German Gewehrblättchenpulver, can never be produced at large in the very same quality and with exactly the same properties, there will always be discrepancies from lot to lot. The military powder manufacturer therefore supplies each production lot with exact loading weights, lot-specific, to be observed by the loading factories.
But the cartridges of which BavarianBrit got several, either loose or on the Breda Mod. 30 MG clips, may have come from very different loading lots and different producers, hence the different powder weights.
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