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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
OTOH (find what works for you) Dagen Voigtman is one of the top American ATA shooters today; little forward lean and erect head position

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That seems more a comment on ATA demands than anything else


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Most ATA shooter IMHO still mount like Ray Stafford

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Derrick Mein shoots International, ATA and Sporting Clays and crawls the stock a bit

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Actually the shooter I was thinking of is lower than Matt. He is also MUCH larger so the visual was far more ridiculous.

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Stance means a lot. There are so many things to trap shooting. Try this: Most people focus on the top of the house when they call for the target. Try focusing out past the trap house on an object. Maybe 100 yards out. And when you call for the target, your focus will come inward toward the target. Rather than going outward and trying to find the target......... Look out the window at something where you are sitting right now. Then look at something right in front of you........NOW look at the object right in front of you then look out the window and find the object you were looking at before. Your eyes focus a lot faster coming inward (back toward you) than they do going out away from you............ Then there was the great Jimmy Walker. I shot with no one better. He would run 25 straight shooting from the hip from the 27 yard line. Then he would just look over at you and grin. Or maybe say, "How'd you like that!!??" I thought he was just lucky the first time I saw him do it. Then I noticed guys on trap shooter.com would say he did it all the time. He passed away a few years ago. Great shooter. And all-around athlete.

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If they are too short get a galazan buckle on leatherman pad and use the shims accordingly

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Originally Posted by keith
Originally Posted by Wonko the Sane
Try some advice that works. Yardley is as good as anyone and far better than most. The no BS approach.

http://positiveshooting.com/GunFittingP1Main.html


I've been following this Thread without comment. The article in Dr. Wankers' link by Michael Yardley has good advice. I also have Yardley's book. "Gunfitting", and one thing stands out.

I can't recall anywhere Yardley suggests shooting a bird or clay target gun off sandbags. To get a good representation of point of impact from a pattern board, it seems apparent that shots at the pattern board should be taken using the same mounting and shooting style one would normally use on birds or clay targets. Save the sandbag rest for the slug gun and rifles.

Keith, I'm not sure if you were referring to my earlier post or not, but I think I'm the only one who mentioned shooting off a sandbag. Let me emphasize that the only purpose to that is to see if the gun shoots straight, and I think a sandbag is the easiest and quickest way to do it.

I once bought a SxS that cross fired so badly that it was worthless as it was. Shoot at a can 30 yards away and you wouldn't get a single pellet in it from either barrel. The left barrel threw the entire load to the right and the right barrel threw every pellet to the left. It took 2 shots off of sandbags to determine what was happening, and I think that's a good test for any new gun, but especially a SxS.

It takes only a few minutes to carry out this test, and I think it's worth doing. If the gun shoots straight, proceed from there to see how it fits.

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