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Re: Reloading problem Vall #675855 06/12/26 01:53 PM
Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 264 Likes: 634 Bozeman, MT shrapnel Sidelock
shrapnel Sidelock Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 264 Likes: 634 Bozeman, MT	Originally Posted by Vall Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Vall Your seating die is set too low and pushing the shoulder back as you seat your bullets. Raise the die up and then turn the seating pin down to get the bullet depth back. You're over crimping the necks and that's pushing the shoulders back. Originally Posted by sharps4590 Whatever it is, that is way too much crimp. I never crimp bottleneck cartridges bullets for a bolt rifle until you're getting into big magnum or Nitro Express cartridges.. Don’t you guys read what is already posted before you comment? I load by the 10’s of thousands and it isn’t a guess at what the problem is! In this case I didn't. So what do you want from me now? Nothing, do you read the instructions on your pill bottles before you take your medication? Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is, listening to Texans..John Steinbeck

Re: Reloading problem shrapnel #675864 06/12/26 03:59 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 707 Likes: 74 Missouri Ozarks sharps4590 Sidelock
sharps4590 Sidelock Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 707 Likes: 74 Missouri Ozarks	Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Vall Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Vall Your seating die is set too low and pushing the shoulder back as you seat your bullets. Raise the die up and then turn the seating pin down to get the bullet depth back. You're over crimping the necks and that's pushing the shoulders back. Originally Posted by sharps4590 Whatever it is, that is way too much crimp. I never crimp bottleneck cartridges bullets for a bolt rifle until you're getting into big magnum or Nitro Express cartridges.. Don’t you guys read what is already posted before you comment? I load by the 10’s of thousands and it isn’t a guess at what the problem is! In this case I didn't. So what do you want from me now? Nothing, do you read the instructions on your pill bottles before you take your medication? Not when it's the same medication I've been taking for 15 years. NRA Benefactor 2008 NRA Patron 2007 NRA Endowment 1996 NRA Life 1988

Re: Reloading problem shrapnel #675872 06/12/26 06:40 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 794 Likes: 49 Oregon Vall Sidelock
Vall Sidelock Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 794 Likes: 49 Oregon	Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Vall Originally Posted by shrapnel Originally Posted by Vall Your seating die is set too low and pushing the shoulder back as you seat your bullets. Raise the die up and then turn the seating pin down to get the bullet depth back. You're over crimping the necks and that's pushing the shoulders back. Originally Posted by sharps4590 Whatever it is, that is way too much crimp. I never crimp bottleneck cartridges bullets for a bolt rifle until you're getting into big magnum or Nitro Express cartridges.. Don’t you guys read what is already posted before you comment? I load by the 10’s of thousands and it isn’t a guess at what the problem is! In this case I didn't. So what do you want from me now? Nothing, do you read the instructions on your pill bottles before you take your medication? Seems like you've really got your panties in a twist over this. I'm done with it.
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Re: Reloading problem earlyriser #675875 06/12/26 10:03 PM
Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 264 Likes: 634 Bozeman, MT shrapnel Sidelock
shrapnel Sidelock Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 264 Likes: 634 Bozeman, MT	A simple question turned into a whirlpool of emotions. Sorry for the derailment, but I wanted the OP to understand I know what I’m talking about even if Heckle and and Jeckle don’t agree… Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is, listening to Texans..John Steinbeck
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Re: Reloading problem earlyriser #675941 06/15/26 03:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,307 Likes: 123 Tulsa, Oklahoma Ken Nelson Sidelock
Ken Nelson Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,307 Likes: 123 Tulsa, Oklahoma	https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/bulged-some-cases-with-lee-collet-die.7070898/ Dodging lions and wasting time.....
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Re: Reloading problem earlyriser #676160 06/19/26 08:19 PM
Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 129 Likes: 33 Mtns of NM-WY-AL 1916XE Sidelock
1916XE Sidelock Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 129 Likes: 33 Mtns of NM-WY-AL	As stated, crimp step not needed in most bolt action cartridges without significant recoil. I use the Lee Factory Crimp die but ONLY on lever action cartridges with older tubular magazines: the 348 WCF, 33 WCF, and 45 -70 in Winchester 1886 and early Model 71 rifles. The Lee FCD must be used carefully, regardless. RCBS dies used on 90% of my reloading from 270WCF through 375 H&H, up to 450 Alaskan. The Lee FCD in 450 Alaskan is rare and requires careful adjustment-but it really works well, as the 450 Alaskan cartridge generates substantial recoil in a lever action Model 71 with 400 gr bullets.
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