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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Ted, I'm listening. But, if eating meat from CWD infected animals is so dangerous, why hasn't the CDC figured that out?

Somebody, somewhere, at some time, should have died from eating it by now, wouldn't you think?


I don’t know if eating meat from infected animals is dangerous. The CDC (bless their hearts) doesn’t seem to know, either, and appears to be hedging their bets.

Has anyone died from eating infected deer? Hell, my peers are dropping like flies these days, a lot of them seem to go in their sleep and the family never knows exactly what killed them if they don’t fund an autopsy. “Natural causes” leaves a pretty wide berth.

My only point, again, is we don’t know what we don’t know.

By the way, some of the best meat I’ve ever eaten came from venison taken in areas of small grain farming. I have an acquaintance who owns his family’s ancestral farm on the border of Indiana and Kentucky who plants small grain, makes his living in the trades, and only really “farms” the local deer.

I’ve no need to eat any tamarack swamp deer from the northeastern part of Minnesota ever again.

No comparison.

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The "prion" thing drives me crazy. I have asked every respectable scientist I have ever worked with over the years to explain what a "prion" is to me and have yet to get a good answer. Even animal-- science folks can't seem to answer my questions (which I find hard to believe).

Stan: dying from spongiform encephalitis does not sound like a good way to go to me and if CWD does effect humans...that is how you would end.

Venison might not be universally appreciated (& maybe for good reasons) but...the animals I have harvested out here in Colorado have been excellent tablefare and I serve it to friends and family regularly (& I test every animal now, for going on 20-years). I would greatly miss it if we didn't have some in our freezers (elk is clearly my favorite but mule deer comes in at a fairly close second).

I firmly believe that it's all about how it's harvested, how its processed, and then, of course... how well it's prepared (a good game cook makes all of the difference [for both birds and big game]).

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It depends on what they eat, too, Lloyd. If you doubt me, take a buck from that wasteland on the east side of highway 72 into Baudette.

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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
We are so overrun with deer here that I would welcome CWD. They are nothing short of a nuisance.

I Can't believe that You said You would welcome CWD. I know you also Love Coyotes, so they can Kill off the Deer.
Their must be more than Wine in that chalice you drink as a Deacon in your Church on Sundays.

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Originally Posted by dirty harry
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
We are so overrun with deer here that I would welcome CWD. They are nothing short of a nuisance.

I Can't believe that You said You would welcome CWD. I know you also Love Coyotes, so they can Kill off the Deer.
Their must be more than Wine in that chalice you drink as a Deacon in your Church on Sundays.

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Coyotes don't kill enough deer to matter, and they help keep the population healthy.

They're also good for ground nesting birds.

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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
We are so overrun with deer here that I would welcome CWD. They are nothing short of a nuisance.

I believe your statement of the situation, but the conclusion might seem to be intended a bit too.... maybe a bit too provocatively?
We have too many foxes here, also in urban and peri-urban spaces (and increasing numbers of golden jackals, Canis aureus), but I would not wish back rabies either.
In a hunting system like that of most US states and in these states, in many areas, namely license hunting, a real reduction of numbers needs tweaking the system, rather than tweaking the hunters. It could mean unlimited "tags", it could mean longer seasons. It could mean a higher precentage of female animals. And yes, allowing a modest commercialization of venison (even if it is limited regionally) would definitely rank high on the agenda too, methinks.

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Originally Posted by dirty harry
I Can't believe that You said You would welcome CWD. I know you also Love Coyotes, so they can Kill off the Deer.
Their must be more than Wine in that chalice you drink as a Deacon in your Church on Sundays.

Dirty Harry

In hindsight it might have been wise to ditch the deer and hogs.

“Following the flood, Noah became a farmer and planted a vineyard. He became the first recorded drunk in the Bible after drinking wine and passed out naked in his tent. This event led to complex family troubles and the cursing of his grandson, Canaan.”


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Prolly could have left the red bugs off the list too.

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Originally Posted by Geoff Roznak
Coyotes don't kill enough deer to matter, and they help keep the population healthy.

They're also good for ground nesting birds.

We've been down this road before...

There is a very good reason the vast majority of hunters (with the exception of coyote hunters) hate to see coyotes move into their area.

Same reason sheep ranchers and poultry farmers hate to see them... coyotes kill and eat these creatures in large numbers.

The deer population was perfectly healthy, and larger, without them. Nobody was saying,"Gee whiz, our deer seem sick... too bad we don't have coyotes to make them healthier."

And there is no question that coyotes are one of the reasons that game bird populations have fallen in so many areas.

To say a 24/7/365 bird eating predator is good for ground nesting birds is like saying termites are good for your house.

Coming from the same closet Democrat FUDD who said this... it isn't at all surprising:

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The NRA has proven itself unreliable and corrupt. Period.

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Originally Posted by dirty harry
I Can't believe that You said You would welcome CWD. I know you also Love Coyotes, so they can Kill off the Deer.
Their must be more than Wine in that chalice you drink as a Deacon in your Church on Sundays.

Dirty Harry

In hindsight it might have been wise to ditch the deer and hogs.

“Following the flood, Noah became a farmer and planted a vineyard. He became the first recorded drunk in the Bible after drinking wine and passed out naked in his tent. This event led to complex family troubles and the cursing of his grandson, Canaan.”


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Prolly could have left the red bugs off the list too.


Ditch the hogs? The hell is the matter with you, boy? Generations of hogs have had the pleasure of my charcoal grill, making for very fine eating.
That Polish girl is disappointed, somewhere in Detroit.

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1 1/2 lbs of piggy, 1 pound of beef, 1 tablespoon of Walkerswood Jamaican jerk seasoning, 2 eggs, and some other stuff. Meatloaf, over charcoal and pecan wood smoke.

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To be completely honest, ‘woulda used venison instead of beef, if I had it.

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Originally Posted by Lloyd3
Stan: dying from spongiform encephalitis does not sound like a good way to go to me and if CWD does effect humans...that is how you would end.

How would I catch any deer borne disease if I don't eat it, Lloyd? I stated earlier that never eating venison again would be a small price to pay to be rid, or nearly rid, of them. I stand by that statement.


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