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Can someone clarify the relationship between CWD and the consumption of affected animals, (meat)?

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Originally Posted by eightbore
Can someone clarify the relationship between CWD and the consumption of affected animals, (meat)?

Pretty extensive information, here:

https://cahfs.umn.edu/chronic-wasting-disease-cwd-watch

The nasty thing about prions is how long they last in the environment, and how hard they are to destroy. Bleach, mixed with water, is your friend, cooking, not so much. The disorders they cause can take decades to develop, but, not always.

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Congratulations on your success in the draw Lloyd!

We both know how hard it is to draw at times & when you do it feels like you hit the powerball. Then you have the weighed draw BS for some species, and it gets even more frustrating. I just did my annual Moose donation to CPW by not drawing a moose tag for the 25th year of applying for one. I started applying when I was a young buffed 45-year-old and now if I get lucky next year, I would be 70 when I finally get to hunt a moose in this state. I've pretty much resigned myself to the thought that I'll never get to hunt a moose in my home state.

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Originally Posted by dogon
Congratulations on your success in the draw Lloyd!

We both know how hard it is to draw at times & when you do it feels like you hit the powerball. Then you have the weighed draw BS for some species, and it gets even more frustrating. I just did my annual Moose donation to CPW by not drawing a moose tag for the 25th year of applying for one. I started applying when I was a young buffed 45-year-old and now if I get lucky next year, I would be 70 when I finally get to hunt a moose in this state. I've pretty much resigned myself to the thought that I'll never get to hunt a moose in my home state.


Better late than never probably isn’t true in a case like this. Sorry to hear that you never got that opportunity, in spite of trying for so long.

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Originally Posted by Der Ami
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I am pretty sure you could find some young lads in your local area that would be happy help you with your problem; you don't want CWD anywhere around.
Mike

Mike, the GA DNR will issue permits to kill 10 on a crop depredation permit. We do so but, ten (10) isn't a drop in the bucket. Turning every Tom, Dick and Harry loose on the fields at night to shoot them isn't either. Effective control by permit must take place at night. They won't come out to feed on the crops until dark.

My family hunts them during the season, but with the season limit at ten (10), there again, not a drop in the bucket.

Take a look at this video on Youtube of one-half of one of my fields of young corn, scanned by the shooter. There are 60+ deer feeding on my corn that night, on 54 acres, AT ONE TIME! Multiply that by 10 hours of darkness a day, times a 120 day growing season. To put it plainly . . . . culling is not the answer any more than swatting a mosquito on your patio will eliminate the skeeter problem.

CWD only affects deer, moose and elk according to what I've been able to find out. No moose or elk here (thank God!). So, why do I not want CWD? It has never been proven that it can infect humans, ever. People don't worry about mange or parvo in coyotes. Clue me in on what I'm obviously missing.



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From the CDC (Center for Disease Control).

Jan 21, 2026 Chronic wasting disease affects deer, elk, moose, and similar animals in the United States and a few other countries. The disease hasn't been shown to infect people. Scientists continue to study whether having contact with or eating meat from infected animals could affect people.


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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
From the CDC (Center for Disease Control).

Jan 21, 2026 Chronic wasting disease affects deer, elk, moose, and similar animals in the United States and a few other countries. The disease hasn't been shown to infect people. Scientists continue to study whether having contact with or eating meat from infected animals could affect people.

What is far more important is it has not been shown NOT to infect people, Stan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creutzfeldt%E2%80%93Jakob_disease

Similar symptoms, same cause, we have known about this one for over 100 years. 100% fatal. Beyond that, we don’t know what we don’t know.

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I could get by just fine with never eating another bite of venison, Ted. If I could swap that for zero crop devastation, I would in a heartbeat. It's not like what I want will ever come to pass, anyway.

We have known forever that trichinosis, tularemia and other animal related diseases can be prevented in humans by properly cooking the meat. Ya' think the CDC hasn't got enough sense to determine that?

Now, I'm not gullible enough to think that the CDC is infallible, by any means. Remember the "blood clot shot"? However, this shouldn't be rocket science. Either cooking at sufficient temperature for sufficient time will kill the offending bacteria, or it won't.


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Stan,
You aren’t dealing with bacteria with CWD or CJD. It is caused by a folded protein. A prion.

It isn’t technically alive. So, it can’t be killed. Bleach works because it literally destroys cell membranes. Living, and otherwise, as long as they are organic. Cooking doesn’t destroy proteins, otherwise, there would be no point in cooking meat, as you wouldn’t get any protein out of it.

This is a totally different thing. Prions have demonstrated the ability to linger in nature for decades. Nobody knows for sure all the methods for transmission from environment to organism.

100 % fatal is what we know for sure.

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Ted, I'm listening. But, if eating meat from CWD infected animals is so dangerous, why hasn't the CDC figured that out?

Somebody, somewhere, at some time, should have died from eating it by now, wouldn't you think?


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