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Has anyone have any experience with Briley fitted tube sets in a antique or vintage SxS? It would seem to be a viable way to get a gun back into service that is currently unshootable (heavily pitted).

Cyril Adams Briley choked Reilly's SN. 23574 (1881) and 24534 (1882) - believe 23574 may have been rebarrelled in steel - 24534 may be original Whitworth steel barrels - see Reilly history for when he began to market steel barrels:

23574
http://www.vintageguns.co.uk/category/guns/page/13/
A beautiful bar-in-wood side-lever 12-bore hammer pigeon gun with two sets of barrels, third bite and scroll engraving. Cased in leather. This was used as his go-to game gun when Cyril Adams (see 24534 another Cyril Adams Briley choked gun) visited the UK for many years.It has been fully restored in England by the best gunmakers and is proofed for modern 2 3/4″ shells. We guarantee it for 12-months
Details
Maker
Stock Number CA56
Type Hammer Guns, Live Pigeon Guns
Gauge 12
Weight 8lbs
Stock
Grip Straight Hand
Length to centre 15 1/4"
Length to heel 15 1/4"
Length to toe 15 1/2"
Forend
Catch Hackett Snap
Ejectors None
Barrels
Type Steel
Length 30" both sets
Rib Flat, pigeon type
Chambers 2 3/4" both
Choke Right: Set 1: 3/4 Set 2: Briley
Left: Set 1: Full Set 2: Briley
Serial Number 23574



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24534
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/795747638
This is an extremely rare and desirable EM Reilly Live Pigeon Competition Hammer Gun. SPECIFICATIONS: EM Reilly Competition Live Pigeon Gun, custom built for prestigious London retailer E.M. Reilly. This is a best quality gun with many best gun features to include: - Extra heavy 1 1/2 oz. London proofs with 3" chambers. - 31" Fluid pressed Steel barrels with flat filed top rib. - Purdey style under bolts and slotted hinge pin. - Nearly 100% coverage fine scroll engraving. - Dolls-head extension. - Fully filed action with highly detailed & intricate Percussion style fences. - Extra heavy firing pins - Hackett patent snap on fore end - Beautifully figured French walnut stock and fore end with nearly perfect 28 LPI checkering and English Leather covered pad - Highly sculpted, "below the line of sight" hammers. CONDITION: Gun retains over 50% of it's original color case hardened finishes. Wood excellent with nearly 100% finish, near perfect 28 LPI checkering and excellent in-letting / wood-metal fit. All screws properly indexed and virtually untouched. Barrels tight on face, mechanically excellent - Barrel to breeches fit is as good as the day it was made. Previous owner (Cyril Adams) (see 23574 another Cyril Reilly with Briley chokes) was a World Class Helice & Live Pigeon shooter and had the barrels shot & patterned with the addition of Briley screw chokes for all conditions performance and versatility. The pictures say it all. There is likely not a better example of a vintage Hammer gun in any configuration on the market today. The gun comes in a very nice vintage leather Brady VC (Very Compact) case. Included are cleaning equipment and spare springs and firing pins. These are the new spares. The 118 year old original parts are still in perfect order! Dimensions: STOCK: Modern Flat comb competition dimensions: 1 3/8" x 1 3/8" x 14 3/4" LOP. Cast on for Rt. hand shooter (can easily be bent) Weight 7 lbs. 8 oz. Barrels 31" Bores: L: .733" R: .728" Min Walls: L: .031" R: .035" FFL or C&R required. Because of the value and weight of the gun and case, shipping and insurance is estimated at $80. I will only charge actual cost to your dealer. Three day no shoot, no disassembly inspection permitted. The gun must not have left the dealer's possession before being returned. If returned, shipping cost and the gunbroker fee will be deducted from the refund. Contact Allan with questions at 423 262 9394.

Excuse the above post. Thought you were referring to Briley chokes. Reading comprehension - "F".

I would call Briley and ask them. I would guess they could. From what I understand they can fit tubes to just about any gun.

Yes, a good friend sent his Parker 20 gauge barrels off to have 28 gauge tubes fitted to them a couple of years ago. Interestingly enough, I just had this same conversation with Briley earlier this month when I was considering the purchase of an MX20. Lead time was stated to be around 3 months.

I have Briley tubes in a 20 gauge Damascus Parker, been shooting that gun for decades with great results. I am considering tubing a Prussian Lindner 16 hammer gun with a hole between the barrels, and a severely pitted 20 gauge Laminated Steel Parker. 28 gauge tubes in a 20 gauge gun results in a rather fragile chamber. You just have to be careful with them.

Can you leave them in permanently?

problem is, full length tubes in both barrels add about a pound of weight to the gon...

The sage of the age has spoken.

I have known and shot with a few guys who have had tubes. They seem to like them. One had a set of every gauge for his over under and seemed to enjoy the .410s the best when he shot skeet. He was a pretty big guy and the weight didn't seem to bother him. Weight doesn't bother me that much when I shoot clays. Hunting -yes. Setting the gun down a lot more. I only buy 12s or 20s. Makes it easier. 👍

Back in about 2012 I had Briley make up and fit a pair of tubes for a 12 gauge Joaquín Fernández model "Olivia", produced circa 1912, that had a severely pitted area in one of the bores. Tubes were a set of 20 gauge tubes and a set of .410 tubes. Tubes worked well and solved the problem. I noticed no change in weight or balance with either set of tubes installed. I usually leave the 20 gauge tubes in the barrels. Hope this helps.

I was going to say I would take him more seriously if he learned to spell, but that would be a lie.

~8 to12 oz. for the Ultralights.

Not awful, but more than I'd want screwing up the balance of the gun.

He knows how to spell, he just does that to try to be cute. What he doesn't realize is that it is a total sign of disrespect for the others here who make an effort to post with correct spelling and grammar. What a loser he is.

gee whiz, stan...

is hit sum thin ah said?

PALUNC, you can leave the tubes in for a long time if there is no moisture situation, like shooting in the rain. I always put a skim of oil in the bores before inserting the tubes.

I was considering a tube set for a 2 1/2" chambered Dickson and was told it would have to be opened to 2 3/4". That was a long time ago, so I would ask them.

You can only be be disrespected if you choose to be.

Same with being insulted.

Why anyone would give that power to others baffles me. That's the kind of thing our resident cancer thrives on, and others allow it to yank their chains. Better to troll it right back, which based on the length density of its replies, makes it pucker right up.

Personally, I find it amusing to taunt the spelling and grammar Nazis.

Believe that if you want, but don't preach it as gospel. Our men in uniform that came back upright from Vietnam were disrespected. But, not because they chose to be. Jesus was disrespected when He came as our Messiah, not because He chose to be.

If a person being disrespected can disregard it totally, more power to them. But, that doesn't mean they are not being disrespected by the other party.

I swear, Geoff. Some of the things you have come up with lately have caused me to wonder if you and Ed aren't blood kin.

Stan, there's a very good reason that you have the strange feeling that a lot of TransGomer Joff's behavior reminds you of someone else...

... but it isn't anything from Ed where you've seen this before.

I won't say it right now because I know you are intelligent enough to figure it out. And I know you've also been around here long enough to understand the things that go on behind the scenes here, the actual motivations, and the hidden agendas. If it was really about simple disrespect, personal attacks, or name calling, then it would apply fairly and evenly across the board. Instead, you are smelling a putrid maggot infested Red Herring.

Nothing that hasn't been done before. I'll end for now by giving you one hint. Think about who suddenly disappeared from this Forum just about the same time TransGomer Joff emerged after a long absence. That individual isn't alone and isn't really gone. .

I keep saying it.... you can learn a lot about Double Guns on this Forum.... but you can learn a lot more about people if you pay close attention. I don't say that simply because I need to hear myself.

I do believe it, but didn't preach it.

The examples you gave are a wee bit more extreme than choosing to be offended over how someone chooses to write.

I don't, and have not for a long time, give a rat's red but if some idjit is disrespecting me. That's their issue, not mine...though it is fun to mirror their crap back at them and wantch them lose their minds. See our board malignancy for a perfect example.

I swear, Stanton, your weak attempt to disrespect me in your last sentence made me laugh...

I’m not a big fan of sub-gauge tubes. I’ve had three sets.(Kolar, Briley, std weight and ultra lights). Troubles with broken ejectors and problems keeping the tubes in place mainly. Most work best with low brass AA’s, STS and Nitro’s. The old Briley tubes did not like steel base hulls. They allegedly have fixed that issue. The weight issue can be significant although I have had unusually good luck shooting 32” tubes in my Sporting gun, finishing respectfully in 28 gauge FITASC and Super Sporting events. Weight was a tick under 9.5 #.

The best tube gun setup I’ve shot belongs to my best shooting buddy. It is a 12 ga 30” 325 Browning with barrels bored to the max by Dean Harris and the 12 gauge choke tubes fit tight to the sub-gauge inserts. I believe all the work was correlated with Briley.

I’ve shot several sub-gauge events with that gun and it handles pretty nice. YMMV.