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Yeah, a neat & very rare Gustav Kersten offering under DRP #141334(DE141334 if you want to search yourself). Gustav Kersten was a relative of Dietrich Apel.

https://germanhuntingguns.com/archives/kersten-gustav/

„Drehblockverschluss für mehrläufge Gewehre mit Festliegenden Läufen“

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It is impressive to see the real *origin* of the LATER and well-known incarnation of the so-called Kerstenverschluss, which soon simply became a double Greener.
It's like studying paleontology. :-) Like, you mean THIS CRITTER was the first "horse"?!

That one is also impressively overengineered. Basically, a light artillery piece with a reluctant wooden interface to humans.

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6,35 Carcano:

I would have to pull the other DRPs for Kersten namely #192183, #201507 and no. #217832, but for the moment I a quite confident that DRP #41334 was Gustav Kersten's 1st attempt @ a Behemoth vertikal Tabernacle Lock(vault) variant??

There are a couple DRGMs mind you, but I don't think they are this complicated.

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Just a generic question: if tubeset extension is in the centre, it is defined as a Greener. If the tubeset extension w/ circular cross bar is flanked on each side, it is a Kersten. But if the extension is to one side only is it still defined as a Greener?


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Originally Posted by ellenbr
But if the extension is to one side only is it still defined as a Greener?

Most definitely yes.

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So Greener's contribution to a tube extension lockup is a single extension with a circular or square hole anywhere along the interface of the action - tubeset?

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Originally Posted by ellenbr
So Greener's contribution to a tube extension lockup is a single extension with a circular or square hole anywhere along the interface of the action - tubeset?

That's how we see it in Central Europe.

P.S.: Central Europe extends to Lemberg and Czernowitz in the Southeast, and Reval in the Northeast (plus many manor houses).
That's about the maximum extent. (Ultra sunt leones...)

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