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F.T. Baker it is.
Using the macro camera on my iPhone 17 Pro, and 8x optical magnification, I can make out part of the F and T, the 29, and the beginnings of "Glasshouse" in the inscription.
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i'll add an opinion regarding the question of the source of the action;
several pages back, in some of your photos, there are two different serial numbers shown. one is a four-digit number that is repeated on several parts, the other appears to be 56555. numerous of the market supplied actions will display double serial numbers - one from the firm that produced the action, the other from the concern that finished and sold the completed gun. i would wager that the four-digit is the baker number - and that the 56555 is a webley-scott production number. that would put production of the action in 1899, after the amalgamation of webley and scott, when the screw-grip action was widely marketed, in the time period when damascus barrels were frequently nitro proofed, and during a fairly short interval when overhanging sears were not uncommon on their guns.
i have a 1902 webley screw-grip with both nitro proofed damascus, and overhanging sears - built for mahillon in brussels
"it's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards."
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Glad you figured it out, Geoff.
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i'll add an opinion regarding the question of the source of the action;
several pages back, in some of your photos, there are two different serial numbers shown. one is a four-digit number that is repeated on several parts, the other appears to be 56555. numerous of the market supplied actions will display double serial numbers - one from the firm that produced the action, the other from the concern that finished and sold the completed gun. i would wager that the four-digit is the baker number - and that the 56555 is a webley-scott production number. that would put production of the action in 1899, after the amalgamation of webley and scott, when the screw-grip action was widely marketed, in the time period when damascus barrels were frequently nitro proofed, and during a fairly short interval when overhanging sears were not uncommon on their guns.
i have a 1902 webley screw-grip with both nitro proofed damascus, and overhanging sears - built for mahillon in brussels Thank you for that detail. I've added it to my document for the gun.
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Just a quick point. Overhanging Sears (such as those usually found on many Teutonic made actions) are not the same as intercepting Sears.
The action hasn’t been determined to be built by W&S. Geoff, can you see course threads when viewing the slot in the action meant for the barrel extension? If you can see course threads on the spindle, then the action was more than likely to have been made by W&S. If you cannot, then the action was likely produced by another maker.
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Just a quick point. Overhanging Sears (such as those usually found on many Teutonic made actions) are not the same as intercepting Sears.
The action hasn’t been determined to be built by W&S. Geoff, can you see course threads when viewing the slot in the action meant for the barrel extension? If you can see course threads on the spindle, then the action was more than likely to have been made by W&S. If you cannot, then the action was likely produced by another maker. Yes, the coarse threads are present - thanks for this detail. Another bit of detail for my document on the gun.
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Just a quick point. Overhanging Sears (such as those usually found on many Teutonic made actions) are not the same as intercepting Sears.
The action hasn’t been determined to be built by W&S. Geoff, can you see course threads when viewing the slot in the action meant for the barrel extension? If you can see course threads on the spindle, then the action was more than likely to have been made by W&S. If you cannot, then the action was likely produced by another maker. Yes, the coarse threads are present - thanks for this detail. Another bit of detail for my document on the gun. I'll stick with my original suggestion, an A & W 51 action (or variant 52, special etc) supplied by Webley. Nice gun. Regards Mr w Martin
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