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Well aware. Dealing with it, with my wife, right now. It fits perfectly.

...and if this was a face to face disagreement at a bar, our cancer wouldn't dare say what he vomits from the safety of his keyboard.

On stock bending - As Richard and Roger wrote:

Now some they do and some they don't
And some you just can't tell
And some they will and some they won't
With some it's just as well
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Who cares? But I'll still bet a dollar he eats the bait.

Yes, once again Karen is wrong and ranting. Same old, same old from her.

There is no replacement for experience and some people are just bitter that they lack it.

Thank you for your insights tut. I'll take them for what they are worth.

However, Princess SKB wasn't the only one who was unable to see the glaring differences between Crying Bob Cash's blank of feather crotch black Walnut, and his finished stock made from a totally different blank of thin shell Walnut.

You couldn't tell the difference either. And when Crying Bob finally learned the truth from his stocmaker that he had switched blanks, he admitted he had been wrong. But you did not admit you were wrong... after weighing in with your " Walnut expertise" multiple times.

You also admitted that an expensive blank you bought had such poor layout that your stockmaker cut it up into pieces. And you also learned the hard way that stock bending can result in a broken stock. Want to tell us who eats the cost of repair or replacement?

And I'll bet two dollars this triggers another retarded estrogen fueled off-topic comment from a myopic little busy-body who can't even tell the difference between Red states and Blue states.

I remember years ago on here this was discussed and someone put pictures of the way he bends a stock. So I asked someone about stock bending back then. I am surprised that no one on here has mentioned what he said was the probably most important step on the success of bending of the stock.

Mr. Patton, there are some things to watch out for and to know. If you apply heat to a stock that has been glued back together in the past, the heat will melt the glue and you might have more than a two piece stock. I check first and goofed up once when I was too much in a rush. I never buy a gun that has a repair in the stock.

In my experience, there are stocks that cannot be bent. Period. You will know after you try. I have not had any damage when that happens.

I have bent more than fifty stocks. I have not cracked a stock (except the glue fiasco) whether bending up or down or sideways. You need to bend a bit further than the measurements you are trying to attain. You do gain a feel for it.

The next most important thing is to know how much you need to bend. The 1/16 rule applies. For every inch you gun is off of center at 16 yards, you need to move your eye 1/16". Patterning is usually done at 16 yards for that reason. Notice, I said eye. This part is important. Your eye sits above the stock 1/3 the way down from the receiver or 2/3 the way up from the butt. To move your eye multiples of 1/16" you must move the butt 3 times that amount. An example: If your pattern is off (up, down or sideways) by 4" you must move your eye 4/16" which translates to 12/16" (3/4") at the butt. This sounds like a lot but it works to zero your aim point. Mount your gun and you will see where your eye is.

I use a contraption similar to SKB made with left over 2x4 and 2 x 6's from my old job sites. Long sheetrock screws holds the frame together and those old type orange/brown heat lamps, 250 watts (from Home depot) in clamp on 2 desk lamps from Staples, 6" away from the wrist. Canola oil is my choice which wets the fabric (I happen to use large gauze). It is tied with cotton string. I heat for 30 to 60 minutes. Not being a metal man, l used lamp parts and household electric box parts and other improvised stuff. It is still functional.

There are other ways to do this and you can find it on the internet. Good luck!

This would be a good time for you to admit that you are wrong and that thin shell is easier to bend than black walnut.

You won't though......

Mike Orlen's tutorial
https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=127132

Orlen's jig



Jack Rowe's Video
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Part 2

No one figured out what I was trying to say above about one of the most important steps to a successful stock bending. About 25 years ago we had this same discussion on here and I was at the Grand American talking to Brent Umberger about bending a stock. He said the one of the most important things about bending a stock is that it has to be dried properly the original time it is dried. Usually about 6-8%. If the stock is not dried on the original drying, it may cause problems in the future when someone tries to bend the stock. If the wood wasn't dried properly the first time, it could lead to spring back or distort the structure of the wood and ruin the stock when it is heated to bend it. I believe that Pete Hiatt said the same thing.