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http://british-guns.uk

I am not sure why I have only recently found this website, courtesy of David Neale, but I have spent the better part of over a day reading the articles on British guns. Great pictures and research. I am still not done with the many articles, but must stop for a while and cook the black cod that has been requested.



Pictures and information on Baker Shotguns can be found below.

Thanks for pointing out the site Daryl. Under "Manufacturers" there is an article by David Neale, a New Zealander, about Joseph Charles Reilly, gunmaker, London

https://british-guns.uk/articles/joseph-reilly-gunmaker-london

He asked last fall if he could use my research. You'll note that the text is lifted almost verbatim from the Reilly history on this site. Here is the beginning of the article:

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Joseph Charles Reilly – Gunmaker
An Important London Gunmaker

Joseph Charles Reilly, this Gunmaker is more important to the British gun making story than initially thought by many. Like so many collectors and enthusiast, the need to find out about the guns in their care is important. After purchasing an E. M. Reilly Hammer Gun made in 1877, the need to know more started, however, Gunmaker histories become difficult to secure, especially if the information has been re-written, or recorded inaccurately. There is need for information to be checked, evidenced and accurately updated through time. The information resources are very different in today’s world, and a long way from the resources from Victorian and Edwardian Britain. The power of the WWW is a major resource, however only the deepest research, with cross referenced related evidence can support any information update. The research of all things are made easier, when recognised writers, enthusiast, and authorities on any subject work together.

This approach has allowed additional information to be gathered by Gene H. Williams, who has shared information on Reilly prior to the release of his forthcoming book on Reilly Gunmakers, and has kindly supported this article. The immerging information has galvanised the importance of the London Gunmaker Joseph Charles Reilly and Edward Michael Reilly. This maker, and the founding business of J. C. Reilly for over half a century has not received the expected recognition for their contribution to British Gun making.

Gene, I enjoyed the Reilly article you attached and am in awe of your extensive research. Thank you, Daryl



Pictures and information on Baker Shotguns can be found below.

Daryl, I was a bit taken aback. I told him he could use the research but he plagiarized virtually the whole thing. I have to get my article/book self-published and copyrighted. Working on after two years of dalliance.

Very good website though for all shorts of things. I believe he is the owner of that website and put it together.

There is a ton of information on this board which would fit that website well or any double gun publication. Most of the very knowledgeable posters here though just don't put it into publishable form.

Diggory Hadoke said he'd been contacted by David Neale who asked permission to use an article he'd written about a gun maker. Diggory refused. David said he'd just change the wording around and publish it anyway.

So, it looks like David is creating this site and using all sorts of stuff published by others but put on the site in his name. It's not a bad idea to put this all together but seems a bit sketchy or even unethical to claim it as yours. Wondering if he'll find Dr. Drew's line on Damascus on doublegunshop BBS and compile and publish it himself, etc.?