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too bad ole Ed aint wid us no mo...
he could fire up his torch...
apply ah bunch o c clamps...
an din put dat gon back to getter...
licky de split... And put frogeye pseudo-case colors on it at the same time.Yuchhh!
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That is an interesting problem! I gave it some thought and the best way in my opinion would be to heat them up in a controlled atmosphere oven. with a very thin ribbon of braze metal and flux in the joint. Held by a clamp of some sort. Yes, you would have to relay the ribs. When Parker(and others) did it, the barrels were in an unfinished state, so scale was not an issue. Try to do it with a torch would probably net you a crappy job. I might be willing to try a repair for myself if I could buy one of these guns cheap enough. Always wanted a steel shot special!
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That is an interesting problem! I gave it some thought and the best way in my opinion would be to heat them up in a controlled atmosphere oven. with a very thin ribbon of braze metal and flux in the joint. Held by a clamp of some sort. Yes, you would have to relay the ribs. When Parker(and others) did it, the barrels were in an unfinished state, so scale was not an issue. Try to do it with a torch would probably net you a crappy job. I might be willing to try a repair for myself if I could buy one of these guns cheap enough. Always wanted a steel shot special! That was how barrels were brazed at Verney Carron when I was there. The barrels were assembled in a jig, everything was held in place with wire that was tightly wound around the bits, and the barrels run into the oven on a steel link conveyor. I saw the process, but, never saw the machine run. I got the impression they assembled barrels in fixtures Monday through Thursday, turned on the gas and lit the oven on Friday, and brazed barrels before the weekend. Best, Ted
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I posted my reply well before Ted posted the pic. That's NOT operator error... but I have never heard of Repros doing that before this thread.
And I've only owned 5 or 6 Repros...
Last edited by DAM16SXS; 04/19/26 04:50 PM.
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stan, my post here was in jest...
yours however, is not...
the man is dead...
give it a rest...
and keep in mind, of the many gun frames that old ed recolored at my request...
which I later sold, never had a single complaint...
on the contrary...
received many compliments from happy customers...
so stan an udders, wid no class nor respect for the dead...
give hit ah rest...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Bought a Repo new in 1987. In a year the stock split at the wrist. Had it repaired well. Short time later, the single trigger malfunctioned. Had it converted to DT. That bcured everything. Sold it...No Mas! Two other folks locally had Repros that also split at the wrist.
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I posted my reply well before Ted posted the pic. That's NOT operator error... but I have never heard of Repros doing that before this thread.
And I've only owned 5 or 6 Repros... The world is full of surprises. I have maintained across about three different threads on this topic that I do not believe this is an epidemic. I believe that the material that Winchester model 21s are built of, which, is 4140 Chromoly, is difficult to wet in a soldering operation, and, as a result, they pop ribs and for-end loops regularly. Perhaps there is an issue with the steel the Repops are made of that causes something similar, but, brazing a lump back in place is going to be far more traumatic than silver soldering ribs or a loop in place. There exist many Parker repros that have been at work for years and have no issues. I will say that the single trigger delivered in the Repro needs to be worked on most of the time, from what I have seen. That might be more of an opinion, but, the single trigger is usually a bit crunchy. But, that is a relatively easy fix. I have seen three Parker Repro guns with this issue. It gets your attention the same way seeing a bad wreak happen does, and leaves a pit in your stomach for the guy who owns it and a big question on how much a repair will cost, or, if it is even feasible. Best Ted
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stan, my post here was in jest...
yours however, is not...
the man is dead...
give it a rest...
and keep in mind, of the many gun frames that old ed recolored at my request...
which I later sold, never had a single complaint...
on the contrary...
received many compliments from happy customers...
so stan an udders, wid no class nor respect for the dead...
give hit ah rest... I call 'em like I see 'em, Ed. Dead or alive. I take every opportunity to brag on good work just like I will point out bad work, and THAT was bad work. If you don't want me to comment don't bring up "Master Gunsmith Ed Lander", your gun return policy, or your grouse killing owl. Bring 'em up if you want, but you're asking for opinions on here when you do.
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