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Was at a gun show last weekend, talking to some fellows that were looking for some double guns,
when Parker Repros came up. They said they were aware of two 2 repros in their area where the barrels fell
the frame (broken lugs). They also said that some of the guys at their sporting clays shoots are scared to shoot
their repros now, and are trying to sell them before they fall apart.
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Was at a gun show last weekend, talking to some fellows that were looking for some double guns,
when Parker Repros came up. They said they were aware of two 2 repros in their area where the barrels fell
the frame (broken lugs). They also said that some of the guys at their sporting clays shoots are scared to shoot
their repros now, and are trying to sell them before they fall apart.
Dirty Harry Did you ask for photos, serial numbers, or details of how these guns allegedly "fell apart"? That sort of proof shouldn't be hard to find, especially when a large majority of adults has immediate access to their cell phone camera. We still have actual photographic evidence and the serial number of exactly one Parker repro that had the barrel lug braze joint fail. I'm perfectly happy to be proven wrong, but I'm not going to jump to any conclusions based upon nothing but hearsay.
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Filthy rumors - nothing more. The Parker Reproductions are as dependable as any other well-made gun in their price range.
I say Operator Error... (if these claims ever actually happened).
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Filthy rumors - nothing more. The Parker Reproductions are as dependable as any other well-made gun in their price range.
I say Operator Error... (if these claims ever actually happened). Filthy shame: ![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/jvCxT1Hf/IMG-0164.jpg) It happens. I’ve seen three examples that look exactly like this, took a picture of one. I doubt it is an epidemic, and, I really don’t care as I’m not and will never be an owner. Best, Ted
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Why could this not be rebrazed?
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Some talented gunsmith will make a business of taking care of this problem, if there is a problem.
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Some talented gunsmith will make a business of taking care of this problem, if there is a problem. Sure. The world is crawling with talented gunsmiths. I can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a couple of ‘em. Best, Ted
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Filthy rumors - nothing more. The Parker Reproductions are as dependable as any other well-made gun in their price range.
I say Operator Error... (if these claims ever actually happened). How can Operator Error explain the photo Ted just posted?
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Some talented gunsmith will make a business of taking care of this problem, if there is a problem. Sure. The world is crawling with talented gunsmiths. I can’t swing a dead cat without hitting a couple of ‘em. Best, Ted I especially like the dead cat part.
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Some talented gunsmith will make a business of taking care of this problem, if there is a problem. Talented Gunsmiths Like ''Arts'' will fix them at around $1000.00 per gun. That's why there are a load of them for sale by a load of dealers and most if not all are on consignment ! Dirty Harry P.S, That 2 more comes to, lets see, 22 Repro's with barrels falling off. (That we know of) That comes to $22,000 for some ''Talented'' gunsmith. One thing I am almost sure of, there aren't any talented gunsmiths on the Parker gun site that can handle this Repro Problem. So I would think the Parker Boys will be coming on the ''Double Gun site'' for Guidance.
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So I would think
the Parker Boys will be coming on the ''Double Gun site'' for Guidance. When hell freezes over. Hold your breath and wait for that.
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very sad...
otherwise, they are wonderful gons...
like alotta other parkers, repros are over priced, but are still wonderful hunting guns...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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So I would think
the Parker Boys will be coming on the ''Double Gun site'' for Guidance. When hell freezes over. Hold your breath and wait for that. Hell Stan, your a Parker Union Member and your on the Double Gun site looking for ''Guidance'' every day ! On this site you have freedom of speech, just say one ''Pro Trump'' thing on the Parker Site, and you will get the Badge of Honor If you don't know what that means, Mr. Good will explain it to you. Dirty Harry
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I'm on the DGJ site often, but looking for "guidance"?
Not very often.
At least I'm not stirring up **** with every post, like you.
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I'm on the DGJ site often, but looking for "guidance"?
Not very often.
At least I'm not stirring up **** with every post, like you. It's not my fault that Repro's are breaking down, I am just reporting the bad news on them when I hear of another one breaking down, that the Parker boys are trying to keep quiet. Hell if I owned a few repro's, I wouldn't want that bad news getting out either. By the way, do you own any of them ? Dirty Harry
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What I own, or don't own, is none of your concern.
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What I own, or don't own, is none of your concern. I agree with you ! Dirty Harry
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I'll tell you something. The place I worked at had our own weld shop. The guys in there could weld, braze, solder or any or that type of work. I could probably name a dozen guys, retired, I worked with who could braze those. I know the guy who welded up a piece for my lawn mower was good enough to braze or solder those type of barrels. They had to learn to do all types of work like that to repair our machinery.
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Did they replace those retired guys, jimmy? Are there still a dozen of them working there, fixing machinery? Funny, in my trade, and the trades associated with mine, nobody can find replacements. We’ve been advertising for two years for a qualified Journeyman where I work.
They don’t exist anymore.
How would those guys have handled the ribs getting loose after the concentrated heat from brazing that lug loosened them from the tubes? Could they silver solder ribs back on, or, braze them back on, if that is how they were built? Could they clean up the braze from the engraving or lettering on the tubes, after they knocked out reattaching the lug and the ribs? How were their polishing skills? Were they aware that different grades of guns got different degrees of polish, and that, ultimately, a craftsman’s goal is a finished repair that can’t be told from original? How were their engraving touch up skills? How well could they rust and/or hot blue?
How much engraving and bluing did those guys do on your lawnmower repair? Do tell.
Maybe you could get Steve, who posts here as SKB, to explain to you why he already made it clear that he wouldn’t touch that job.
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too bad ole Ed aint wid us no mo...
he could fire up his torch...
apply ah bunch o c clamps...
an din put dat gon back to getter...
licky de split...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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too bad ole Ed aint wid us no mo...
he could fire up his torch...
apply ah bunch o c clamps...
an din put dat gon back to getter...
licky de split... And put frogeye pseudo-case colors on it at the same time.Yuchhh!
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That is an interesting problem! I gave it some thought and the best way in my opinion would be to heat them up in a controlled atmosphere oven. with a very thin ribbon of braze metal and flux in the joint. Held by a clamp of some sort. Yes, you would have to relay the ribs. When Parker(and others) did it, the barrels were in an unfinished state, so scale was not an issue. Try to do it with a torch would probably net you a crappy job. I might be willing to try a repair for myself if I could buy one of these guns cheap enough. Always wanted a steel shot special!
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That is an interesting problem! I gave it some thought and the best way in my opinion would be to heat them up in a controlled atmosphere oven. with a very thin ribbon of braze metal and flux in the joint. Held by a clamp of some sort. Yes, you would have to relay the ribs. When Parker(and others) did it, the barrels were in an unfinished state, so scale was not an issue. Try to do it with a torch would probably net you a crappy job. I might be willing to try a repair for myself if I could buy one of these guns cheap enough. Always wanted a steel shot special! That was how barrels were brazed at Verney Carron when I was there. The barrels were assembled in a jig, everything was held in place with wire that was tightly wound around the bits, and the barrels run into the oven on a steel link conveyor. I saw the process, but, never saw the machine run. I got the impression they assembled barrels in fixtures Monday through Thursday, turned on the gas and lit the oven on Friday, and brazed barrels before the weekend. Best, Ted
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