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Very intriguing.
It is an Anson and Deeley Patent gun, but where are the cocking levers that would normally protrude from the front of the action bar (which looks as if it may have been re-machined?).
Was it made as or converted to a lever cocking gun?
The 2 drilled holes are in the wrong place for gas vents.
Do they lead to some sort of tensioning screws in the action ?
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it doesn't look like the holes go all the way through. Regardless, how would holes on the breech face deactivate the gun? Do they drill into the mechanism?
The gun is not listed as deactivated, but maybe they just haven't tested it.
Assuming this was just what can be seen, I wonder if it could be either used as is or welded to fill the defects.
thoughts?
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The standing breach has drag marks on the same vertical centerlines as the recesses. It may be possible a round nose spring loaded rod attached to the extractors snaps into the recesses when closing. I agree with Keith, I’d like to see the barrel breach ends.
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I don't have a picture of the barrel face, but here is one from below. I don't see anything protruding ![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/FkNBPZRT/7023-9.jpg)
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![[Linked Image from thumbs2.imgbox.com]](https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/97/8e/w0WsYBdb_t.png) Holts photo of the underside shows it has a central cocking slide, somewhat akin to a Greener Facile Princeps, so it is not lever cocking as I speculated. The top lever work appears to be typical Westley Richards pattern
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Looks to me as some idiot's idea of gas porting. Crude beyond belief. Why not just have the gouges welded up and call it good?
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I guess that leaves much to the imagination about what else might have been done to that gun
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Well ,my colleagues, I have an exactly similar gun in my "maybe one day" to do box. Unfortunately the subject gun has conventional replacement barrels so the original ejector system will not work.My gun, very similar if not identical has thew weirdest ejector system i've ever seen
.Basically the gun ejects every time the barrels open, however the extractor legs are restricted from ejecting unless the lock has been fired, in which case a protrusion from the A&D tumbler releases the stop and allows full ejection. I'm not going to expect anyone to understand this from my description so tomorrow when i'm doe with chores I'll take photos. send them to Ted S. and we'll share with you all.
Hugh Lomas,
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