Gathered a round table to discuss the Iran issue. Asked his Secretary of War what he thought and Hesgeth answered. Isn't that how round tables work? Isn't that how presidential advisory bodies work? People gather and express their opinion and then the president makes his final decision, having listened to the various people present.
That Wanko, Bill and anyone else thinks this is evidence of Trump "blaming Hesgeth" or passing the buck or suggesting that Hesgeth is making the decisions is just looney tunes. No wonder it's hard to take you guys seriously. Your posts often resemble those of insane people....devoid of logic or evidence. Simply grasping at straws to make your wildly partisan point.
You two should look back at the posts you made in this thread, including the opening one, and be embarrassed. Not for partisan reasons.....go ahead be a leftist....just the pure lack of reason and logic and simple common sense. .
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
One waits with overwhelming anticipation for the glorious victory effected by Supreme Commander Dodger Bonespurs and Legendary General Hairgel Tvguy resolving the international markets panic that they created. Ignoring of course the $billions$ sucked from the US taxpayers.
I don't know what it is that I'm denying but it ain't that.
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One waits with overwhelming anticipation for the glorious victory effected by Supreme Commander Dodger Bonespurs and Legendary General Hairgel Tvguy resolving the international markets panic that they created. Ignoring of course the $billions$ sucked from the US taxpayers.
I don't know what it is that I'm denying but it ain't that.
One waits with overwhelming anticipation for the glorious victory effected by Supreme Commander Dodger Bonespurs and Legendary General Hairgel Tvguy resolving the international markets panic that they created. Ignoring of course the $billions$ sucked from the US taxpayers.
I don't know what it is that I'm denying but it ain't that.
More trolling...think it'll work?
Wee Jimmy, aka Canada Jim, aka canvasback, swallowed hook, line and sinker. Somewhat shocked he didn’t screech “AND FREEDOM!” at the end.
______________________________ I’ll crack ya broadside the boards. LR
I submitted this same post over 24 hours ago, but It must have gotten lost in cyberspace or something.
Dr. Wanker and Rocky Mtn Bill, two of our most seriously afflicted members suffering with Trump Derangement Syndrome, are more than happy to celebrate an article from the extreme Liberal Left Yahoo News.
If either of them had half a brain and any objectivity at all, they would acknowledge that Donald Trump has been saying the same thing as all of his predecessors since 1979 when Islamic extremists took over Iran, namely that Iran must never have nuclear weapons. He is on record saying it since before his first term. He is not throwing Pete Hegseth under any bus. The big difference is that Donald Trump has done the most to insure they never achieve that goal.
Iran has taken great pains to hide their uranium enrichment activities, and spared no expense to build deeply buried bunkers and munitions facilities. If the Libtards here wish to now complain about the amount of time or money or soldiers lives it takes to stop Iran's nuclear ambitions and funding of global terrorism, they really ought to be blaming their anti-gun Democrat presidents like Obama and Biden who relaxed and removed economic sanctions, released billions of dollars in frozen assets, and gave Iran the money to build the ships, planes, missile launchers, ballistic missiles, and other weapons that Trump is now destroying. Obama and Biden helped to pay for the mines and missiles used to close the Strait of Hormuz. Their anti-gun Democrats were convinced Iran would do the right thing, even as they repeatedly lied and reiterated their Death to America/Israel threats.
Dr. Wanker should be back again shortly to also accuse Trump of being a puppet of Netanyahu and the Jews. He would have been the first to also blame Trump if Iran succeeded in building some nukes, and used them on the U.S. and Israel. rocky mtn bill would have been next, followed closely by the usual suspects like Princess Stevie and the Nutty Professor, etc.
Originally Posted by rocky mtn bill
Wonko, Sanity belongs to the universe of objective reality. It holds no sway here. Still, it can be a pain in the MAGA behind.
Hahahahaha, Gun owners who proudly show their support on a firearms forum for anti-2nd Amendment Democrats... once again lecturing us about "objective reality". Almost as dumb as their friends and closet Democrats who actually think they are "staunch 2A supporters".
Trigger alert!
Voting for anti-gun Democrats is dumber than giving treats to a dog that shits on a Persian Rug
The sons (and now daughters) of the rich and influential have never gone except by choice or ambition. It didn't start nor will it end with Trump. I doubt we will see Obama's daughters volunteering any time soon.
The sons (and now daughters) of the rich and influential have never gone except by choice or ambition. It didn't start nor will it end with Trump. I doubt we will see Obama's daughters volunteering any time soon.
See if Ted or James jr raise their right hand when the time comes.
______________________________ I’ll crack ya right handy. LR
One waits with overwhelming anticipation for the glorious victory effected by Supreme Commander Dodger Bonespurs and Legendary General Hairgel Tvguy resolving the international markets panic that they created. Ignoring of course the $billions$ sucked from the US taxpayers.
I don't know what it is that I'm denying but it ain't that.
Let's see... about $25 billion spent so far to keep insane radical Islamists from continuing to pursue nuclear weapons and a 47 year reign of terrorist attacks.
Sounds like a lot until you compare it to the $128 to $135 Billion spent by Democrats (so far) on the 171 mile California High Speed Rail System, which is nowhere near completion after 16 years of planning and construction.
Then there's the untold Billions of dollars that was spent by Democrats to finance a literal invasion of the U.S. by tens of millions of illegal aliens, all while lying to the American people about the border being secure, and an inability to stop illegal border crossings without new legislation. Democrats like Dr. Wanker, rocky mtn bill, and CZ will wring their hands over the tragic deaths of a small number of U.S. military personnel, while remaining totally silent about the hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens who died of fentanyl and other drugs that came in during Biden's Open Border Invasion. The total cost of importing illegals, paying them Welfare benefits, medical costs, education, housing, etc. will surely run into hundreds of $Billions, or more.
They are also silent about the $Billions, or perhaps $Trillions in waste, fraud, and abuse in Government Programs that we see under investigation in Minnesota, Michigan, Maine, California, and other mainly Blue States. Congresswoman Ilhan Omar apparently bought King Brown's fictitious award winning winery that doesn't make wine.
And how come there have been no comments about Joe Biden being exempted from military service during the Viet Nam war due to student deferments and supposed teenage asthma??? Nothing to see here folks! Speaking of Biden and Democrat incompetence, why no mention from Dr. Wanker, et al about the $188 Billion spent by the U.S. so far on the Russia/Ukraine war that happened due to Biden's perceived weakness???... same sort of weakness that led Russia to take Crimea and the Dombass under Obama.
With all of these enormous Democrat expenditures, fraud schemes, and misadventures that make the operation in Iran pale in comparison, it's no wonder that Democrats feel Iran was no threat. Iran and crazy Mullah's focused on Death to America really aren't much of a threat compared to Democrats.
Voting for anti-gun Democrats is dumber than giving treats to a dog that shits on a Persian Rug
The sons (and now daughters) of the rich and influential have never gone except by choice or ambition. It didn't start nor will it end with Trump. I doubt we will see Obama's daughters volunteering any time soon.
See if Ted or James jr raise their right hand when the time comes.
______________________________ I’ll crack ya right handy. LR
Like this?
He had a medical issue at boot camp, was told no harm, no foul, feel free to come back if your blood work returns to normal. He says he might give it another run after he gets his degree.
The sons (and now daughters) of the rich and influential have never gone except by choice or ambition. It didn't start nor will it end with Trump. I doubt we will see Obama's daughters volunteering any time soon.
See if Ted or James jr raise their right hand when the time comes.
______________________________ I’ll crack ya right handy. LR
Like this?
He had a medical issue at boot camp, was told no harm, no foul, feel free to come back if your blood work returns to normal. He says he might give it another run after he gets his degree.
He tried. Might try, again.
Best, Ted
Well, at least he got to see a little bit of San Diego. Bet he won’t forget getting off that bus and standing on those yellow footprints anytime soon. Good luck at Quantico. They shitcanned about 70% of the candidates in my class. Props for trying though.
The sons (and now daughters) of the rich and influential have never gone except by choice or ambition. It didn't start nor will it end with Trump. I doubt we will see Obama's daughters volunteering any time soon.
See if Ted or James jr raise their right hand when the time comes.
______________________________ I’ll crack ya right handy. LR
Like this?
He had a medical issue at boot camp, was told no harm, no foul, feel free to come back if your blood work returns to normal. He says he might give it another run after he gets his degree.
He tried. Might try, again.
Best, Ted
Well, at least he got to see a little bit of San Diego. Bet he won’t forget getting off that bus and standing on those yellow footprints anytime soon. Good luck at Quantico. They shitcanned about 70% of the candidates in my class. Props for trying though.
My father was a DI at Naval Officer Candidate school, and 50 years ago told me about the same numbers flushed out. My kid asked if he could give it some time in a rehabilitation platoon, the Corps said sure, so he gave it a month. He cleaned parking lots all over MCRD and a few public lots as well, spent some quality time sunburned, but, got a reputation as being a hard worker on his detail. If any of you guys have a kid that is prescribed Acutane, and considering the military, make sure he is under the care and observation of a doctor, not a physician’s assistant. My kid should have been off of it long before he went to boot camp.
He is busy with school, at the moment. We’ll see what happens.
Anybody placing any bets? I wish I had $500 million in bets an hour before the invasion.
Just matter of time before Gallipoli 2 or more likely Dieppe 2 takes place. I don't understand stupid people. I mean if one truly believes that current Iranian regime is great threat to the United States they should be in favor of boots on the ground. History shows that we can't bomb ourselves out of this. Decision to go to war should be last resort and based on sound intelligence and assessments. I didn't see that, therefore, I was not in favor of attack on Iran.
You didn't see that? Really? How did you miss it? Did you sleep through the scores of intelligence briefings the President sat through before making the decision?
You didn't see that? Really? How did you miss it? Did you sleep through the scores of intelligence briefings the President sat through before making the decision?
🤣🤣🤣
I was definitely anticipating the joke here being that Jager slept through the briefings the president ... also slept through.
I didn't see that, therefore, I was not in favor of attack on Iran.
Asleep at the wheel, huh? Just wait for the mushroom cloud on the horizon? Iran is the world's greatest enemy whose greatest desire is wiping Israel (and all infidels) off the face of the earth, post haste. Maybe that's no big deal for you, but God's word is against it. It would appear you've picked your side on this matter. JR
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Be strong, be of good courage. God bless America, long live the Republic.
Looks like another TDS afflicted member has revealed himself. Somehow, I'm not surprised. The signs were there... the usual affiliations.
Ever since Trump won his second term, the same Liberal Left Fale News that ignored Joe Biden's stumbling, bumbling,, falling, mobility issues, and his inability to speak coherently even while reading a teleprompter, has been carefully studying every move he makes.
Like the dishonest Libtards here, they falsely claim he is actually more debilitated than Biden. Even though it is well known that Trump only sleeps a few hours a night, a photo that catches him blinking or momentarily resting his eyes is used to compare him to a senile old guy who started his day late, and needed daily nap time... in addition to needing nearly every weekend at the beach to rest.
Democrats did all they could to hide Biden, and his cognitive impairment. But bad as he was, he still showed more intelligence than any gun owner who supports anti-gun Democrats. The only plausible explanation would be some connection to LGBTQ interests.
Voting for anti-gun Democrats is dumber than giving treats to a dog that shits on a Persian Rug
[ Decision to go to war should be last resort and based on sound intelligence and assessments. I didn't see that, therefore, I was not in favor of attack on Iran.
In addition to 47 years of hostage taking, frequently threatening oil shipping, launching and sponsorship of numerous terrorist attacks on U.S. military and civilian interests, there was this little issue of a regime that regularly preached Death to America and Israel, while actively spending billions on uranium enrichment and long range ballistic missiles.
Just before this action started, the Iranians opened negotiations by announcing they had over 460 kg of 60% enriched uranium... enough to make at least 11 bombs.
Uranium enrichment for civilian nuclear power plants is only enriched to a level of 3 to 5%, so they obviously were lying when they claimed their nuke enrichment was for power generation.
They openly admitted that, and Jagermeister, the Democrat troll who doesn't even own any double guns, is actually telling us he didn't see any "sound intelligence".
He must have been looking in a mirror... because based on the stupidity he posts here, he has no intelligence.
Voting for anti-gun Democrats is dumber than giving treats to a dog that shits on a Persian Rug
It is important to believe what people tell you about themselves and their goals. Most people easily give themselves away by their words mannerisms and actions. Fools ignore that information.
The Iranian leadership has been very clear since 1979 about their goals. Only fools ignore that.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
....Decision to go to war should be last resort and based on sound intelligence and assessments. I didn't see that, therefore, I was not in favor of attack on Iran.
Is there anything new under the sun. You have been quite open in the past about selective seeing, and over past fifteenish year that I've known your ideology, the USA has lost so much of its values and history at an exponentially increasing rate. Metoo, only I do see.
Few people would argue that Iran's leaders don't deserve the treatment they're getting. Critical comments about the conduct of the war are attacked here as if they offer support for Iran. Trump launched a war without adequate planning. He has alienated our allies and wonders why they aren't jumping in. Read the column by Chuck Hagel and Leon Panetta in today's NYT. Read recent columns by Thomas Freidman. These are loyal Americans with career experience in warfare and the Middle East. I truly hope Trump succeeds here. However, I greatly fear he is far in over his head and may end up doing untold damage world wide.
Few people would argue that Iran's leaders don't deserve the treatment they're getting. Critical comments about the conduct of the war are attacked here as if they offer support for Iran. Trump launched a war without adequate planning. He has alienated our allies and wonders why they aren't jumping in. Read the column by Chuck Hagel and Leon Panetta in today's NYT. Read recent columns by Thomas Freidman. These are loyal Americans with career experience in warfare and the Middle East. I truly hope Trump succeeds here. However, I greatly fear he is far in over his head and may end up doing untold damage world wide.
Typical response from you based on ideologue sources. Those three losers you cite, not to mention the bogus NYT in general, are as full of sh*t as a Christmas turkey, always have been. And you have no way of knowing anything about the planning that went into the military action against Iran. Our so-called "allies" are cowards hiding under their bedsheets hoping Trump succeeds yet criticizing him at the same time. Newsflash: This untold damage world wide you speak of has been going on since 1979 by the Iranian theocracy. President Trump is doing what no other president had the courage to do. Good vs evil, Bill. JR
Be strong, be of good courage. God bless America, long live the Republic.
Few people would argue that Iran's leaders don't deserve the treatment they're getting. Critical comments about the conduct of the war are attacked here as if they offer support for Iran. Trump launched a war without adequate planning. He has alienated our allies and wonders why they aren't jumping in. Read the column by Chuck Hagel and Leon Panetta in today's NYT. Read recent columns by Thomas Freidman. These are loyal Americans with career experience in warfare and the Middle East. I truly hope Trump succeeds here. However, I greatly fear he is far in over his head and may end up doing untold damage world wide.
This Trump Trope is remarkably common among those with TDS. "Trump is in over his head". As though he is consistently incompetent. As though he has no clue.
Yet his track record is one of incredible success in implementing his mandate. The reality Bill, is you think he's in over his head because you disagree with his mandate, his plans and his actions, not that he has demonstrated some consistent level of incompetence.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
Few people would argue that Iran's leaders don't deserve the treatment they're getting. Critical comments about the conduct of the war are attacked here as if they offer support for Iran. Trump launched a war without adequate planning. He has alienated our allies and wonders why they aren't jumping in. Read the column by Chuck Hagel and Leon Panetta in today's NYT. Read recent columns by Thomas Freidman. These are loyal Americans with career experience in warfare and the Middle East. I truly hope Trump succeeds here. However, I greatly fear he is far in over his head and may end up doing untold damage world wide.
Lots of speculation there...weak on facts and data.
CB, I happen to agree with many issues in Trump's mandate: we have to control our borders; our allies should pay more for their defense; the US should be less dependent on other nations and more self-sufficient;ect;ect. The trouble is he believes with all his being that the end justifies the means. He is determined to force the world to conform to his wishes. He is isolating America and turning it into a pariah state. That may well please many here, but it scares rational people everywhere who believed since forever that they could count on us. Take Greenland for instance. Trump wants to mine there, but for some reason Greenlanders aren't enthusiastic. How could they be when his opening gambit was a threat to seize the place by force? His biggest accomplishment is his ICE campaign, a reign of terror whose tactics make us look like Chili under Pinochet.
CB, I happen to agree with many issues in Trump's mandate: we have to control our borders; our allies should pay more for their defense; the US should be less dependent on other nations and more self-sufficient;ect;ect. The trouble is he believes with all his being that the end justifies the means. He is determined to force the world to conform to his wishes. He is isolating America and turning it into a pariah state. That may well please many here, but it scares rational people everywhere who believed since forever that they could count on us. Take Greenland for instance. Trump wants to mine there, but for some reason Greenlanders aren't enthusiastic. How could they be when his opening gambit was a threat to seize the place by force? His biggest accomplishment is his ICE campaign, a reign of terror whose tactics make us look like Chili under Pinochet.
In 1915 no one in the world "counted" on the US to solve the exploding problem of WW1
In 1939 no one in the world "counted" on the US to solve the exploding problem of Nazi Germany.
In both those instances the US did it's level best to stay out of those giant conflicts.
The Western world has become dependent on.....counts on the US because the Western world became a welfare recipient of America's largess and moral guidance since 1945. And now, like a typical welfare recipient, they have come to view that largess as their due and are outraged when it may not be forthcoming.
Trump is simply re-ordering things to a more balanced relationship. Pariah state? Don't make me laugh. Your hyperbole undermines any effort at credibility.
FYI there are plenty of Greenlanders who are enthusiastic about America's potential involvement there as they are a bit sick of being both ruled by and looked down on by the Danes. The ICE reign of terror is nailing criminals. Good for ICE. BTW, of the 3000 plus counties in the USA, only about 8 count for the vast majority of violent ICE actions and violent anti ICE protests. Hmmmm.......wonder what is going on in those 8 counties that isn't happening in the other 2992 counties.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
The Western world has become dependent on.....counts on the US because the Western world became a welfare recipient of America's largess and moral guidance since 1945. And now, like a typical welfare recipient, they have come to view that largess as their due and are outraged when it may not be forthcoming.
That’s it in a nutshell.
In a letter to the editor in the WSJ …
“President Trump has requested other countries to assist in the full opening of the Strait of Hormuz. Real allies would have volunteered their help, not needing to be asked. There are very few countries that aren’t being harmed by this closure.
I am reminded of the children’s story, “The Little Red Hen.” No one wanted to help make the flour, the dough or bake the bread, but they all wanted to eat it after it was done.”
______________________________ No more free rides.
America's saving democracy in two world wars is not at issue. Those European countries have been loyal allies ever since. Trump has managed to alienate them. Yes, they should have been paying more for defense. But before making them hate us, he might have tried persuasion. He thinks he can compel them to act in his interests. His greatest failure is the hatred and division he has sown. The notion that any means is justified by the end is the source of his failure. It is utterly antithetical to basic Christian teaching and central to the methodology of every dictatorship, whether of the left or the right.
America's saving democracy in two world wars is not at issue. Those European countries have been loyal allies ever since. Trump has managed to alienate them. Yes, they should have been paying more for defense. But before making them hate us, he might have tried persuasion. He thinks he can compel them to act in his interests. His greatest failure is the hatred and division he has sown. The notion that any means is justified by the end is the source of his failure. It is utterly antithetical to basic Christian teaching and central to the methodology of every dictatorship, whether of the left or the right.
Bill, the loyal ally was America. The rest weren't loyal. They didn't pay their way. They demanded everything of America and gave lip service in return. I know......I live in one of the worst offenders. A huge number of Canadians hated America long before Trump came along. This is something very few Americans understand. And it's very typical of dependents. They hate those they are beholden to. A very high percentage of Europeans disliked Americans long before Trump. It's couched in the Ugly American Tourist trope but it goes far beyond that.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
Thanks Stan. I was in the US this last weekend for the first time since Covid. Great to be back. Always love visiting. Wish I could stay longer. Will be in NC later this month for the Southern. Can’t wait.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
A Canadian writing for a semi prominent left wing publication. What a surprise that he’s critical of Trump.
Colour me shocked!
Here’s an outsider’s observation. You guys seem to enjoy living in echo chambers. No wonder you have trouble thinking clearly. A left leaning American friend recently asked me what right wing publications did I read. Shocked when I said “I don’t……I read centre and left wing stuff”.
First, there are very few right of centre publications. But more importantly, why would I? To have my current views reinforced? Don’t need that. I need them challenged. Regularly. I need to read what idiocies the Left is currently thinking up.I need to read that which might change my course of action, not that which massages my ego.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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