|
|
|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
31
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
6 members (ratt, justin, ouchessie, montenegrin, Wild Skies, 1 invisible),
1,108
guests, and
6
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums10
Topics40,109
Posts570,670
Members14,670
| |
Most Online19,682
Mar 28th, 2026
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2025
Posts: 13 Likes: 1
Boxlock
|
OP
Boxlock
Joined: May 2025
Posts: 13 Likes: 1 |
Who developed or made this style of scope mount? On an older Winchester 70, Picar German Scope and co-witness scope mounts to utilize the iron sights. Has a quick release and is just a beauty. Help Identify this?[img] https://imgur.com/a/PLvBzxG[/img]
Gun Shop Retiree
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,443 Likes: 42
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,443 Likes: 42 |
Best to show the rear base & ring as well.
From this singular picture, it looks like a standard claw mount used by most germanic gunmakers.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2025
Posts: 13 Likes: 1
Boxlock
|
|
OP
Boxlock
Joined: May 2025
Posts: 13 Likes: 1 |
There are 5 or 6 photos there and a couple show the rear and front base with and without the mounts attached.
Gun Shop Retiree
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,047 Likes: 411
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,047 Likes: 411 |
There were three main producers of the standard claw mounts that seem to match the ones shown. They are Bock, Ernst Apel Wuerzburg (EAW), and Eric Recknagel (ERA). All of them would have provided the parts "in the white" and the front rings "hooks" pressed into the hook plate (which would be dovetailed into the "sattle"). The rear ring is adjustable for windage ("mit support") and would have been bought long enough to adjust for elevation and mill the feet. The rear hooks would have been milled and fit to the base by filing on the bottom side of the "slider" (this takes the slack [Luft] out of the fit up. The bases would been fit to the barrel, soft soldered, contoured, engraved, and blued. Once all this work is done, by any qualified gunsmith, it is pretty difficult to know who produced the mounts (or whether the "production" was done by the maker of the parts or the unknown gunsmith that installed/fit them up).
Mike
|
|
2 members like this:
Infantry828, Carcano |
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2025
Posts: 13 Likes: 1
Boxlock
|
|
OP
Boxlock
Joined: May 2025
Posts: 13 Likes: 1 |
This is amazing information to have. I manage a large Used Gun Shop for a big company and we see many things here I have not seem before. The mount on the barrel is what threw me for a loop. But just like the Linden, ya'll helped me AGAIN! Thank you for sharing your expertise here.
Gun Shop Retiree
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,443 Likes: 42
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,443 Likes: 42 |
Only the first photo loaded when I commented.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,047 Likes: 411
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,047 Likes: 411 |
Infantry828,
The mount on the barrel is necessary to allow correct eye relief while mounting the scope as low as practical and not having the objective bell strike the rifle when tipping the scope up to mount or dismount it. Otherwise, to have the front mount on the receiver (with correct eye relief) would either require extremely high mounts or "Contra Einhackmontage ", where the front mount locks the scope which tips up in the front and requires bolt removal to prevent the scope striking it when mounting or dismounting it (these mounts were made by ERA but I believe no longer).
Mike
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
