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I saw a listing recently showing a Daly in the December Rock Island auction. It was a Diamond Grade in Featherweight Model. It additionally had heavy relief gold inlays. The estimate was listed in the 5 digit range, but I don't have access and couldn't see the final bid. I was surprised since I had never seen a Diamond GradeFeatherweight. I didn't reaize they made such a gun (although no reason they shouldn't). I have bid on several Diamonds and own a nice featherweight. From the little I researched it seems the Featherweights are more rare than the DIamond grade. My experience with the one I bought has convinced me the lighter gun is more desireable for most use. I wondered how many of these could have been made, especially with the extra decoration. I would suspect this must be one of the rarest quality doubles, right up there with the Grade 7 custom order Parkers. I searched a while and found only one listing I could find find for a Diamond Featherweight and it was a "standard" style and was listed for not much more than a diamond grade. The listing was a few years old.
I wondered if anyone new what the one at Rock Island sold for.
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The most recent RIA auction had three Charles Daly SxS guns, but none of them match the description.
I went back through the last three auctions and didn't see anything like that either.
It sounds like a very nice gun, I'd like to see it.
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By any chance, was it this gun? It was in the December 5th RIA Auction. Charles Daly/Lindner Lightweight Regent Diamond Quality ShotgunPrice Realized: $26,438 Magnificent, Benchmark Example, Factory Relief Engraved and Gold Inlaid Charles Daly/H. A. Lindner Lightweight Regent Diamond Quality Double Barrel Shotgun
Description
Built by H. A. Lindner around the turn of the 20th century and retailed by Schoverling, Daly, & Gales of New York. The gun has blued Excelsior steel barrels featuring dual white bead sights on the matted concave solid rib which is marked "CHARLES DALY REGENT DIAMOND QUALITY" in fine gold inlay surrounded by highly attractive floral scroll engraving which spills off of the rib and blends in to relief engraved fern leaves and scroll at the breech. The barrels show Lindner's "HAL/crossed pistols" makers mark ahead of the flats, period German proof marks, and 2 3/4 inch chambers with automatic ejectors. The barrels are fitted to the casehardened scalloped boxlock action with sideclips and raised side panels, possibly a 20 gauge frame. The action features stunning shell pattern carved fences, "CHARLES DALY" banners on either side, and four gold inlaid scenes all surrounded by lovely intricate scrollwork which flows onto the trigger guard, toplever, and both tangs. The relief gold inlaid scenes consist of a trio of partridge on the left side, a flock of mallards on the right side, a crown over a mallard on the underside, and a pair of woodcocks on the trigger guard. The gun features a third fastener in the standing breech, double triggers, gold cocking indicators, and a tang mounted automatic safety with gold inlaid "SAFE" indicator. The gun is fitted with a beautifully figured and fancy fleur-de-lis checkered splinter forend with engraved iron, a Deeley type release, and a horn tip as well as a half pistol grip stock with horn inlay, checkered and carved flats with fish scale borders, "J.W.M" in the gold inscription oval, and a leather covered recoil pad. Barrel and stock measurements (R/L): bore diameter nine inches from the breech .716/.717 inches; choke constriction .002/.031 inches; minimum wall thickness .026/.029 inches; 1 11/16 inch drop at comb; 3 inch drop at heel; 13 15/16 inch length of pull; slight cast-off; weight 5 lbs. 12 oz. Provenance: The Frank Brownell Collection
Condition
Excellent, retaining 98% original blue finish, 95% original case colors with some muting on the small parts, 99% original gold inlays, and minor handling evidence. There are small chips at the rear of both sides of the forend; otherwise, the wood is very fine with a few marks, light wear on the recoil pad, and sharp checkering. The barrels are slightly off face; otherwise, mechanically excellent. Do not miss out on this chance to own a truly gorgeous early 20th century shotgun!
Details
Manufacturer Lindner
Model S/S Shotgun
Type Shotgun
Serial number
Caliber / Gauge 12
Barrel 26 1/8 inch solid rib
Finish blue/casehardened/gold
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My understanding is that any model or quality level could be ordered as a Featherwight. And I know that before Featherweight became an option on the catalogue pages, with “Featherweight” inscribed on the barrels, very lightweight special order guns could be ordered. They were Featherweights in all but name. I am aware of a Diamond Quality 12 gauge from the very end of the first serial number series, so production somewhere around 1890, that weighs in at around 5 3/4 pounds. I have compared the size of that gun’s action with a micrometer to my early 1900s 20 gauge Diamond #275 and the actions are virtually identical in size.
I’ve managed to pick up inscribed Featherweights in both 12 ga and 16 ga but neither are Diamonds.
I do recall having a conversation with Ken Georgi who has access to an extensive Daly database and him mentioning that of the hundreds of guns listed (I think it’s in the 500 gun range now but don’t quote me) inscribed Featherweights make up about 3 % of the total. I don’t recall what he said about Diamonds. I have my own database of close to 100 guns, gathered mostly from auction results and while I think it skews to higher value guns, my Diamond percentage is between 30% and 40%. So yeah, Featherweights are rare. ( My database Featherweights skew higher than Ken’s list as well. I take Ken’s list to be more representative of overall production)
Edit: That Regent Diamond got posted by Geoff while I was writing my post. Regent Diamonds first appeared in catalogues around 1905 so apparently you could still get very lightweight guns but have them not inscribed Featherweight.
Last edited by canvasback; 03/03/26 09:15 PM.
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