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The "penalty" was what Iran would have done had we done nothing. Now, they've got nothing left to kick with.

So typical of the left and how they react. Had we done nothing until after a strike on America, Trump would have been blamed. Now, there will be no strike by Iran, and they still blame Trump. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

Y'all should get a little bigger playbook. You're entirely too predictable.

Nah, Stan.
Your paranoia is on full display.

Hawks never pay the price themselves. Send the other guys kid out.

There is always, always has been, and always will be, potential threats existing in the world.

I’m really not into the whole bullying thing.

Traveling the world was better when people in other countries viewed the United States as a valuable ally, rather than a dangerous hegemon.

Toppling two governments in the last six months doesn’t instill confidence.

Whose next?
What flight of fancy can our president be manipulated into so that he can continue to play with the toys?

Canada, Greenland, Denmark?

So, CZ, I guess you supported the actions, concerning Iran, of former Democratic administrations? Let's do a quick review.

Hillary Clinton supplied Iran with uranium to enrich their nuclear program.
Obama gave Iran $1.7 billion that they used to ramp up their nuclear program.
Biden freed up over $16 billion in funds for Iran.

So, the elephant in the room question for you is this: do you deny the threat of nuclear strike that the USA was facing before this military action? And, do you support the actions of Clinton, Obama and Biden in this regard?

canvasback can only hope.

The rainbow haired, elbows up’ers in liberal Vancouver, BC must be apoplectic watching this…




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In 6 months Trump has hobbled its biggest and likely only real geopolitical threat of the next 50 years. China.

He’s done this by realigning Venezuela and Iran, two the two major sources of energy for energy poor China.

If that isn’t looking after the future of America, as is his job, I don’t know what is.

That he had potentially liberated wildly oppressed people is a bonus.

Stan, you are projecting.
Remember, I’ve been reading the postings of the members here across multiple platforms for 30 years. I understand who the Hawks are and who are the doves. And who are the pragmatists.

I’ve been consistently consistent. I don’t believe it is the role of the United States to go bombing/de-stabilizing/invading sovereign nations for gossamer thin reasons. It always seems to be people that actually are full of hot air, and pose no real threat.

So sling all the mud you can gather because it won’t change my opinion of this.

Change your opinion? Ha! Not trying to change it at all, just drawing you out to expose it.

Done deal.

Agreed, the US should be in the business of being legitimate. Remember what brandon did, looked like he was spun around paying pin the tail on the donkey, whenever meeting foreign leaders.

Can't even remember when appeasement policies started, just kidding, there's no stopping a lefty. Look at hill, pronoun was gunning for the top office with a massive campaign war chest, based in a foreign country. Shim was stopped, reduced to ducking questions from reporters about bill's pimp.

"Kicking" the bucket down the road led to WWII, in part because of the European countries were unable and unwilling to stop Hitler.

Allowing the Iranians nuclear weapons would have been a disaster.

Did you come out against your precious Democrats when they bombed and ordered missile strikes against hostile countries*. Or is your Trump derangement syndrome?

*Rhetorical question I wouldn't believe your answer. The hypocrisy of the Democratic Party has been very apparent lately.

Well, from a pragmatist to a dove. It's okay to have your own opinion, per the words of a lefty, you'll be dead in a few years anyway, reduced to being a paranoid bully, playing with toys. Or, some such as that.