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All that ''Wine'' you drink on Sunday Mornings as a Deacon in your Church must be affecting Your Brain. I too have Farms and after our Deer season is over
all the Farmers in our area, Me Included, Welcome Coyote hunters, they hunt them with dogs to the end of March. I wish the season was open all year.
Last year one group of Hunters that I talked to took 65 of those killers. And as far as the few thousands in crop damage that the Deer do, is far off set
by the Many Thousands that us Farmers make on our Hunting Leases. Our Hunters pay ''Big Bucks'' to hunt big bucks. On my farms I give them Doe Permits { Free }
and they still will not shoot does. But I shoot them, but not to many of them. But I will say this, since the Coyotes came in. their are no longer feral or tame ''Cats''
roaming our woods and fields. Coyotes are the best Cat Killers out their.

Dirty Harry

I have my opinions, but side fully with the landowner! Especially if Stan would let me game bag a pile of those does back to VA!
(Tongue and cheek- our current VA regulations allow doe harvest in practically unlimited quantities until 3/31/26. I would love to put a few more in the freezer and the kielbasa, but I can't force the time to make it happen)

Maybe you need a few of these, Stan. They do keep the coyotes pretty quiet around here.



Or some of these. They do more damage to deer populations than wolves and probably more than coyotes in most areas where both are abundant.

A fellow here in my area of GA was turkey hunting one spring, recently, and stumbled across an active coyote den. He had a trail camera and set it up there. That spring the female brought in 8 fawns for her pups.

I read about a study in Missouri done on this. They determined that the average number of fawns taken annually was 14, per adult coyote.

I will soon begin to hear their howls at night close to my home, during mating season. I'll be watching TV and hear them just outside my yard, so loudly that I can hear it above the TV audio. I always smile and say "Catch another one, y'all".

No question that black bears are efficient fawn and calf predators. I've seen research that says an adult black bear may kill as many fawns as an adult coyote in a given year, but none that claims they kill more.

However, the Nutty Professor conveniently left out the most important parts of the equation.

In virtually every state that has both black bears and coyotes, the population of coyotes vastly outnumbers the bears. Coyotes are prolific breeders, and their populations are rapidly increasing across their range, while black bear numbers are relatively stable and easily controlled by hunting. Both species will hunt and kill adult deer that are sick or injured, but coyotes often hunt in packs that can easily hamstring and kill even healthy adult deer.

A graphic example is Kansas, that has an estimated 300,000+ coyotes, and essentially no black bears. In Pennsylvania, hunters kill roughly 15 times as many coyotes as black bears, and the coyote population is still increasing. Do the math... or just take a wild-assed guess which species has the greater negative effect upon the deer population.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist, and any so-called University Professor who would neglect to mention those facts would be either ignorant, irresponsible, or deceptive to present such incomplete information.

Such an agenda driven person should never ever be certified to teach young people.

Stan, Many Thanks for this latest information on the 14 kills on fawns per Coyote. I passed that information on to some ''Real'' coyote haters, they responded
with , just use the 1080 treatment that the old ''Wolfers'' used many years ago, with very effective results.

Dirty Harry

Another personal attack.

Shocker!

So Geoff, you'd rather see the Liberal Left Nutty Professor continuing to Post what amounts to bullshit and drastically (intentionally) incomplete information in order to falsely advance his pro-coyote agenda???

Shocker!

Oh, by the way... I note you've been reading old Posts, so it could hardly escape your astute observations that the same Nutty Professor has engaged in personal attacks against me and a number of others here for years. Yet you have not QUOTED him or attacked him for his multitude of personal attacks. And you won't either.

Another Shocker!

But I'm not at all shocked that I triggered you again. I didn't even have to troll or set the hook... you jumped right into the boat Geoff. What's the limit on Liberal Left Clownfish?

The bears are asleep 3-4 months of the year, but, not the coyotes. Wonder how that figures into yearly predation comparisons?

Best,
Ted

Here is a study VA DEPARTMENT OF GAME - from the most densely bear populated area of the state. Bears outdoing coyotes 5 to 1 on fawns. Allegedly bobcats out do coyotes as well.
I suspect this varies greatly per geographical areas.
https://dwr.virginia.gov/blog/the-v...f-whitetails-in-the-allegheny-mountains/