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A question for the cognoscenti here: if I remember my history correctly, no choke boring until 1875 right (WW Greener was 1st on the British side of the pond)? This is a shame because many of the earlier hammer guns are superior for me in several areas (non-rebounding hammers, wedge forends, lighter weight, stunning engraving, etc.) when it comes to hunting with them.
Would it be possible to have a choke tube installed in one of these earlier double guns? I suppose I could make this inquiry to Briley directly but what would the downsides be here (other than committing an abomination of sorts on a classic firearm)?
I really only need one tube with choke.
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the immediate thought of it, just doesnt sound safe.
yet, winchester choked the model 59 fiberglass barrels back in the 60's.
but i have no straight answer to give you.
maybe some smiths will chime in.
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other than being an obamanation, it is really not necessary, if one considers jug choking as an alternative...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Call Dean Harris in Tahlequah, OK. You can trust what he says.
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I had a pre-tapered choke era damascus barreled gun that relied on a jug choke for the left barrel. Gil
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Call Dean Harris in Tahlequah, OK. You can trust what he says. Amen, Stan. My thoughts exactly. For whatever it may be worth, I have no reservation or compunctions about installing thinwall chokes in any classic American, English, or Continental double gun, no matter the grade, lineage, or worth. They are, for all practical purposes, invisible, and greatly increase the versatility of whatever they are installed in. A couple of caveats: no sense in doing them in a gun that is just fine as-is, and I would also not consider anyone doing them other than aforesaid Dean Harris at Skeet's Gunshop, Briley, or Teague. An additional thought: I cannot think of any reason a Damascus-barreled gun would not be a candidate vs fluid steel if it's being used regularly with modern loads as-is. JR
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Probably relevant to the discussion, and cutting threads for screw in tubes. https://parkerguns.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-43714.htmlVic Venters shared that David Dryhurst told him that cutting choke in crolle tubes was more difficult in that the metal would occasionally fracture. This may be why Briley only installs permanent tubes.
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Probably relevant to the discussion, and cutting threads for screw in tubes. https://parkerguns.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-43714.htmlVic Venters shared that David Dryhurst told him that cutting choke in crolle tubes was more difficult in that the metal would occasionally fracture. This may be why Briley only installs permanent tubes. That’s not true. Not too long ago (within the last couple of years), I refinished a set of Lefever Damascus barrels for a member here that Briley put thin walls into. I’ve refinished a couple of different sets of Damascus barrels since then that also had Briley thin walls installed.
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Thank you Dustin. Brian made that statement on the PGCA in 2020 and things may have changed.
I'm interested in confirming, and sent an email to Briley. I'll post the response.
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