I grew up with an Ithaca Model 37, ribbed 20 gauge and shot with it most of my life. It had a full choke and I was extremely good with it- even as a kid hunting rabbits, quail and squirrel. That's why I was so disheartened with this gun. I have been looking for a 20 gauge 21 for about a year now that I don't have to have shipped to me. With ANY chokes. I can get used to any gun chokes. I am real particular with my guns and don't want them messed with. I can shoot skeet with just about any chokes. I have a 12 gauge 21 that has been opened to CYL/CYL and it is a great skeet gun for me. I guess I just don't want another 21 that has been messed with. When I see someone take a gun like a 21 and put screws in chokes in it, I'd never want it. I would have been able to do just fine with the M/F. But I'd hate to buy it and find out it is messed up. It would have been fine if it was originally IC/IM, but I guess I don't want to spend that much money and have it messed with. So, maybe I'll just keep looking. There is a big show this weekend. I'll be there there looking. Thanks, guys.