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Good idea, PALUNC.

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I suppose one could polish a piece of high carbon steel and hang it in the gun safe as a sentinel for rust.


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My storage is technically in an unheated basement although the burner is down there. I've been using gold rods for close to 20 years, nothing has ever developed rust.
This includes the time about a half inch of water backed up into the basement, everything felt damp until it drained, but the safe contents were fine. They are all on pallets, 4 inches above the slab.

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I kept a monster three door money safe on my carport for years to store my better guns when I was out of town. Sometimes, I would leave guns in there for weeks. Yes, it was outside. Never had a Goldenrod, or any problems with rust.

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My basement is finished with tung and groove knotty pine. It has a tile floor and in the summer I have to keep an eye on the floor because tiny droplets of water will form on the floor because of the moisture coming up from the concrete floor underneath. So then I will have to run a dehumidifier. It has heat down there and stays really warm because of being underground.

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Goldenrods have been frequently mentioned. Welp, 33 years ago my wife gave me my first gun safe, a Fort Knox. The gentleman she bought it from was the husband of one of her employees and Roger gave me a Goldenrod as a BD present. It has run continuously since February of 1993. The safe was first in the basement of our farm house and the basement leaked like a sieve. 2 inches of water on the north end was not unheard of. The south end never got wet. The safe was under the stairs and often stood in an inch of water. I never had rust on a firearm the remaining 10 years we were on the farm. That's just the way it was.


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Yes, it's physics, thermodynamics.

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(1) The amount of humidity (vapor pressure, gas behavior, and temperature effects) is the discipline of PHYSICS. (2) The change from gas to liquid (condensation) is PHYSICS (3) The chemical reaction of metal with water (rust/corrosion) is the discipline is CHEMISTRY (4) The biological degradation by moisture (mold growth) is biological CHEMISTRY. Since all of this could happen in a safe, I would say: EVERYBODY"S RIGHT!! 😄

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smile ^^^^^^^^ DimmyW will see this Post ^^^^^^^ because DimmyW only pretends to IGNORE me.... just like the Nutty Professor.

Originally Posted by Jimmy W
My basement is finished with tung and groove knotty pine. It has a tile floor and in the summer I have to keep an eye on the floor because tiny droplets of water will form on the floor because of the moisture coming up from the concrete floor underneath. So then I will have to run a dehumidifier. It has heat down there and stays really warm because of being underground.

Actually DimmyW, the tiny droplets that form on the tile floor of your basement is condensation forming from the hot humid western Ohio air that gets in during the summer months. It's a thermodynamic process. Like Ted and ChiefAmungum say, it's not chemistry.

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(1) The amount of humidity (vapor pressure, gas behavior, and temperature effects) is the discipline of PHYSICS. (2) The change from gas to liquid (condensation) is PHYSICS (3) The chemical reaction of metal with water (rust/corrosion) is the discipline is CHEMISTRY (4) The biological degradation by moisture (mold growth) is biological CHEMISTRY. Since all of this could happen in a safe, I would say: EVERYBODY"S RIGHT!! 😄

Wrong again DimmyW... nobody was even talking about biological processes or mold growth, and nobody had mentioned rust either. The argument between Ted and the Nutty Prof was about relative humidity and condensation. So your Liberal Left pal the Nutty Professor was wrong again... kinda like Al Gore is so often. The Nutty Prof should stick to his cute furry mammals. Now if the Nutty Professor had blown up his gun safe with an overload of 5744 powder and primers, as he did with his Rock Island Model of 1903 Springfield rifle, then THAT would be chemistry.

P.S.- Lake Erie is now 100% frozen over for the first time since 1994, and it is going down to -13 degrees F tonite here. My area is on track to break the 1936 record of consecutive sub-zero nights. You call it Climate Change, and live in a state of fear and panic. Normal people call it a slightly colder than average Winter.


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^^^^^ I can't see what this person is saying anymore - because I decided it's best to IGNORE them.^^^^ But, the relative humidity in my safe is staying around 23%. That's pretty darn low according to what I have read. I was always concerned about humidity and my guns rusting. That is why I got the hydrometer. But just the opposite is happening. I guess that 40 watt bulb is doing its job. I haven't seen where anyone else keeps a hydrometer in their safe. So, I'll just see what happens. Thanks for your opinions. I appreciate it. Now I will go back to watching Outdoor America/ Scott Linden's Windshooting USA. They are pheasant hunting right now. Awesome show!! 🙂

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