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Show us a picture of the gun from the top, action closed, and where the opening lever is.
That looks like a graded Canadian gun, built in Woodstock, in pretty good shape from the photos.
Use it in good health.
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I recall reading somewhere, it may have been in an old Thread on this forum, that the Pyro-oxidized finish on Tobin guns was a version of the Carbonia Blue used by Colt, S&W, and other companies. It was known for its' durability, better than hot salts bluing, and was developed by the American Gas Furnace Co. https://winchestercollector.org/forum/winchester-rifles/carbonia-bluing/
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Looks like a nice No. 70 Trap Grade. From Tobin Catalog No. 110, the earliest Woodstock catalog I know of -- ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/bSPRKNj.jpg) My No. 70E -- ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/VrthhB7.jpg)
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![[Linked Image from thumbs2.imgbox.com]](https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/2a/d2/pjDu68E4_t.png) Ted, lever is still slightly to right of centre. I suspect that the barrels were re-blacked at the time it was re-proofed in 1971, but cannot be sure. Externally it has a few storage or handling dints as you would expect from a 110 year old gun, but I suspect it has not had a great deal of use either before or since 1971. It was re-proofed at .729 and the bores appear perfect but may have had a hone or polish before it was submitted to British proof. I don’t know whether Tobin made it at .729” or slightly smaller. I take it that the circled BP marks stamped just behind the FLUID STEEL KRUPP ESSEN markings was a factory proof nark. ![[Linked Image from thumbs2.imgbox.com]](https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/9a/2b/mgBbnAKO_t.png) Scribed inside the forend is a date 7/5/41 and a cryptic notation that I think may be a dealer’s price code (I have seen similar in antique shops). We will never know its history but I wonder if it was brought to this country in WW1 or 2 by a Canadian Army or RCAF Officer, or it may have been shipped here in 1941 at our time of need? Had it been a commercial importation I would expect to see pre-1925 British Proofmarks.
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None of my Tobins had the BP mark up on the tubes, regardless of what steel type, Demoya, Krupp, whatever, was marked. I don’t know who put that there.
That gun is pristine compared to most I have seen on this side of the pond. Many look like the owners quit using them for hunting and used them as canoe paddles for the last fifty years of ownership.
Best, Ted
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![[Linked Image from thumbs2.imgbox.com]](https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/a6/47/LxLYm5f0_t.png) As you were saying, Ted 😢
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In fairness, they are all a long, long, ways from new.
Give us your shooting report when you’ve got it. That big, ugly hook that goes through the extension on the barrels doesn’t seem to be prone to opening at the shot, like some other American gun designs do when they get old.
That is a nice little piece of Americana on your lovely Isle. Bet you have the only one on the block.
Best, Ted
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