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Bass Pro/Cabela is a business and I doubt the shooting aspect of the business comes even close to bringing in a lot of money.
The lawyers are going to do whatever they can to minimize the company's liability, especially when it comes to firearms and if that means not selling as many guns and related items or driving customers away, so be it.
I have become addicted to English hammered shotguns to the detriment of my wallet.
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Bass Pro/Cabela is a business and I doubt the shooting aspect of the business comes even close to bringing in a lot of money.
The lawyers are going to do whatever they can to minimize the company's liability, especially when it comes to firearms and if that means not selling as many guns and related items or driving customers away, so be it. Lawyers, like everyone else in the company, are working to maximize profits. That means optimizing my liability, not minimizing it.
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I called different Cabela's around the country today to ask about getting banned because of that "Store Policy Form", in case I ever wanted to buy a gun from them. No one has ever heard of such a thing. Every one of them said that a customer only has to fill out the ATF form (background check) to buy a gun. Makes me wonder which store that happened in.
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I called different Cabela's around the country today to ask about getting banned because of that "Store Policy Form", in case I ever wanted to buy a gun from them. No one has ever heard of such a thing. Every one of them said that a customer only has to fill out the ATF form (background check) to buy a gun. Makes me wonder which store that happened in. A Blue State, New York. You can find out about it on the Internet, I doubt if any Cabela's employees would admit that over the phone. They use to ban you for 60 days, now its for life. Dirty Harry
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Ah yes, the unmentioned, unpublished policy in place only in blue States, of course.
Unsubstantiated conspiracy theories....what a surprise.
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I called different Cabela's around the country today to ask about getting banned because of that "Store Policy Form", in case I ever wanted to buy a gun from them. No one has ever heard of such a thing. Every one of them said that a customer only has to fill out the ATF form (background check) to buy a gun. Makes me wonder which store that happened in. A Blue State, New York. You can find out about it on the Internet, I doubt if any Cabela's employees would admit that over the phone. They use to ban you for 60 days, now its for life. Dirty Harry I should try to get banned, before they become Abercrombie & Fitch. Best, Ted
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I called different Cabela's around the country today to ask about getting banned because of that "Store Policy Form", in case I ever wanted to buy a gun from them. No one has ever heard of such a thing. Every one of them said that a customer only has to fill out the ATF form (background check) to buy a gun. Makes me wonder which store that happened in. A Blue State, New York. You can find out about it on the Internet, I doubt if any Cabela's employees would admit that over the phone. They use to ban you for 60 days, now its for life. Dirty Harry I should try to get banned, before they become Abercrombie & Fitch. Best, Ted Yes, you should. It would be your greatest accomplishment. Go for it, and let us know how it goes.
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Okay. I see it now. Harry, you stated originally that it was "not on the ATF 4473 form". That being banned occurs on a "Store Policy Form" --which there is no such thing to sign. Read what you said......... The store policy states that you will be banned from the store IF YOU LIE ON THE ATF form. BIG DIFFERENCE!! I was told on the phone by one store clerk even if you make a mistake-- "you can fight that". Their store policy also states you will be banned from the store for outlandish conduct such as racial slurs, drunkenness, ethnic insults to people, vulgar language, stealing, etc., etc. I read the same policy on a hospital room wall- 2 weeks ago giving a hospital the right to refuse to treat you in the future. So, that is pretty standard policy in today's world. Now think about it- the clerk takes my drivers license and writes down my name and license number. I write down my name, DOB, county I live in, answer a few yes/no questions then sign it and date it. You can ask the clerk what the date is. The questions are pretty much the same questions they have been asking for about 50 years. The clerk usually even tells me what to put down. I realize a person gets nervous. But, a person buying a gun should know those answers. But if you put down that you are buying the gun for yourself, and your son ends up shooting 10 students in school, it comes back on the store because you screwed up and "accidentally" said your were buying it for yourself. And they get sued. That clerk ends up in court being sued. If a person puts down that he is a citizen and he's not, the store is in trouble. That guy could have credit cards a driver's license and who knows what? I like to look at both sides of a story................. I remember I was 18 years old. I was filling out a form to buy a hunting license. The owner of the store was filling it out for me. He asked me my place of employment. I said I was in the military. He grabbed the form and ripped it up and said military people don't have to pay for a license. Scared the heck out of me. Ha-ha!! I have been pretty careful ever since. Sorry for the rant. You have a great week!!
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buying and using are 2 different things. my dad bought and owned the family car. i drove it. i didnt have to own it to drive it. i was put on his insurance title. if i smashed up the car, my dads insurance rates went up, not mine. he was responsible. if kid takes whats not his, and kills someone, the father is responsible for not safeguarding the gun.
did i say that correctly? lmk.
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Sturm & Ruger was sued in the 2021 shooting at a Boulder King Soopers. Sturm & Ruger got sued just because of MARKETING THE AR-556 pistol that was used inside and outside the store.......... A seven year legal battle cost Remington Arms Company 73 million dollars in settlements because nine people were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School Massacre by an AR-15 made by Remington. After 200 years, Remington is leaving LLion, NY for Georgia, putting many people in NY upset and out of work. They moved there because Georgia, "Supports and welcomes the firearms industry." Anyone involved in a shooting can be sued. I didn't want to turn this into a huge pi$$ing contest, but your statements have been just as wrong as dirty harry's are. Where have you been? And the store in St. Louis by YOU was one of the stores I called.
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