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#670230 01/20/26 01:23 PM
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a source for 12 ga 2 1/2 " loads...

hopefully, they will be offering smaller gauge loads soon...

https://www.baschieri-pellagriusa.com/hunting/upland-game-classic/


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It might be possible to find out the pressures on those. B & P has been known to provide that information in the past, one of the very few companies that have.


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This is a disappointment
LAST MONTH the B&P pressures were published here
https://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en/catalogo/cartucce+da+caccia/1/1/index.aspx

The link no longer works, and pressures are not documented in the 2025 nor 2026 catalogs.

I have the old pressure data, which does not include the new Upland loads, and which may or may not apply to current shells.

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I'd try an email to them.


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with muzzle velocities of 1160 fps...

one could expect pressures to be under 8000 psi...

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Originally Posted by Drew Hause
This is a disappointment
LAST MONTH the B&P pressures were published here
https://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en/catalogo/cartucce+da+caccia/1/1/index.aspx

The link no longer works, and pressures are not documented in the 2025 nor 2026 catalogs.

I have the old pressure data, which does not include the new Upland loads, and which may or may not apply to current shells.

Imagine that.

Betcha the “New loads” are only available in the US. Betcha the boxes don’t have any CIP information on them. Betcha the email comes back from them stating they are “under SAAMI max”.

Hope I’m wrong. But, I doubt it.

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I found a different and likely new web site: https://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en/ If you wend your way through each type of shotshell they still provide pressure curves. A quick look didn't reveal any 2.5" shotshells although they do have some 2 5/8" shotshells (F2 classic 16 gauge. These are kind of hot at 720 bar). Some shells in the MB line are around 8000 psi. I really liked their 16 gauge offerings but since their acquisition by Fiocchi they don't show up on the U.S. web site, probably not to compete with Fiocchi's Golden pheasant line although Golden Pheasants are too hot for a CIP-proofed gun.

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Originally Posted by Bruce Bernacki
I found a different and likely new web site: https://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en/ If you wend your way through each type of shotshell they still provide pressure curves. A quick look didn't reveal any 2.5" shotshells although they do have some 2 5/8" shotshells (F2 classic 16 gauge. These are kind of hot at 720 bar). Some shells in the MB line are around 8000 psi. I really liked their 16 gauge offerings but since their acquisition by Fiocchi they don't show up on the U.S. web site, probably not to compete with Fiocchi's Golden pheasant line although Golden Pheasants are too hot for a CIP-proofed gun.

Bruce

Good to see you posting again, Bruce. It's been awhile. Don't be a stranger.


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Originally Posted by ed good
a source for 12 ga 2 1/2 " loads...

hopefully, they will be offering smaller gauge loads soon...

https://www.baschieri-pellagriusa.com/hunting/upland-game-classic/

I would order some shells from Clay Shooters Supply. They even list 16ga and 20ga 2.5" loads. Given Italian motto "If it doesn't kick it doesn't work" I'm not sure i would go with their shells for lower pressure option.
I wouldn't delay with Clay Shooters Supply order because inevitable tariffs that are coming aren't going to help the pricing.


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