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Mike, I was just bored because I didn't feel like going to the gun club in the rain today! Though by staying home I actually got to see my University of Washington Huskies win a televised football game today!!!

We call the 16-gauge the "Queen of the Uplands." I guess I always refer to the 16- and 20-gauge Ansley H. Fox doubles as "smallbores." As I recall from stuff I read in my youth Elmer thought anything smaller then a .375 H&H was a smallbore.

I do think a lower grade NID in 12-gauge is probably the most "American Classic" double for the money, and suitable for most modern ammo too.

Someone back up the line suggested an early Sterlingworth or a later A-Grade Fox. I think I'd go for the early A-Grade Fox with its Krupp barrels and usually pretty nice Juglans regia stock.

Yeah, I always think of 16s as "smallbores" when you're packin' them and "bigbores" when you pull the triggers!

Stay away from the L.C. Smiths, they shoot loose, ugly and bad engraving. (don't want the prices to rise)




The "holy grail" of all shotguns A2 scalloped side locks .

Bouvier, is that a Model 37 Winchester or Ithaca?

I'll go out on a limb and guess Ithaca.

What ever you do, don't even consider a Tobin, or a Baker. No sir, they are just plain no good, and so uncommon that the group that develops around you at sporting clays just won't let you be. You get so sick of answering questions, and being pestered before and after you shoot. Plus, you won't get to pay near as much of your hard earned money for either gun, and that can't be good.

I take great, evil pleasure in telling people who ask to handle "your LC Smith" at my local club that it isn't an LC Smith. And it happens almost every time I'm out.
Best,
Ted

"Sure the government tells the truth....just ask an Indian"

I find the above tag-line a little annoying. You'll probably find this comment equally annoying but I have to say it: Indians may have been lied to in the past but not any that are alive today, sitting on their butts, with their hand out. And not by anyone in today's government. Whatever happened several generations ago may be regrettable but it wasn't done to the current bunch and it wasn't done by me. We've been feeding most of them ever since. That's a worse tragedy than whatever happened 150 years ago! Get over it, Geronimo!

Jim, Don't be so sensitive. I guess it could say "just ask to see the WMDs" or "What do you mean 'did not have sex with that woman'" of something more timely. But I find the tag line sardonically humerous. I have not know the government to be overly honest in my lifetime and I'm gettin' kind of old. And, I don't much trust em' to tell you the truth. Best Regards, Jake

Craig makes a good point. Rarely do you get it straight from governments. It's not in their interests. Currently in Canada, all the chatter is about bald-faced lying by federal cabinet ministers, including a former prime minister. Fortunately, newspapers are providing a well-balanced diet of information and analysis, laying out context and chronology of what they said and what is known.

As for Indians, or First Nations who were here before us, I don't think any minority is coming ahead faster economically and politically in Canada, assisted by generous dollops of majority guilt. I work with them from time to time on resource-management and environmental issues. In our region, they have provided the most effective leadership in protecting habitat.

I understand Jim's view. It's the prevalent one here and, I suspect, there. I do not think that First Nations, by any measure, have made more of a balls-up of leadership, stewardship and governance than we have with a thousand years or so of a head-start. One thing I know with certainty: never in 40 years of tough-slugging has an Indian lied to me.

I agree with Researcher. The "Early A" Fox is the ultimate in hunting and looking at guns at a reasonable price. The artistic, sharply cornered receiver bottom, the conservative, barely discernable engraving, the English Walnut, the hand gripping round knob, the sound of the closing of the action, the history, equal a gun that has no competition. I'm a Parker guy, but the early A Grade Fox has it all over most 12 gauge Parkers of the period. I guess it has something to do with the one I bought yesterday! Murphy

I find the above tag-line a little annoying.

Jim, I hate to start on the subject of what I used as a tag because it doesn't pertain to this forum but here goes.
The Indians were the brunt of it. The whole point is it could have been any minority group and the same would have happened. It's been happening ever since, people have had their land practically stolen from them by the government becasue of of their need for it. One example was in New Jersey, Tocks Island Resevoir, government made offers, no one wanted it, government came back and said that the resevoir would go in and then the offer was dirt cheap (no pun). Never built the resevoir and never offered the people the land back. So don't think that it couldn't happen to some place that you know of.
I used that tag because most people know what happened and how many times they were lied to. No different today.
I'm not too upset with whats happening to them now, I just laugh at what they did to the government now in Conneticut, and hope on other reservations they do the same.

Quote: The white man promised us many things, but only ever kept one, they promised to take our land...and they did.

Who really killed JFK, Marilyn Monroe, Jimmy Hoffa, and more?

I could use: I was born at night but not last night.
or, I thought I was wrong-one time-but I was mistaken.

So Jim, don't take it so hard, just take in the beauty of the sxs and let the rest go, life is to short for stupid shxx.

By the way GOD BLESS AMERICA

David