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Horses for courses as the saying goes.
It is all about preference isn't it?
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...anyone who has ever hunted wild quail and woodcock knows the importance of a quick mount. Ruffed Grouse are faster than either, particularly off the flush...
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Wonko, that is the sanest response I have heard. Of course, the pistol grip at repose holds the gun slightly closer to the mount shoulder than the straight grip. straight grip faster?? Come on.
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...anyone who has ever hunted wild quail and woodcock knows the importance of a quick mount. Ruffed Grouse are faster than either, particularly off the flush... My research says not. Everything I find shows ruffed grouse topping out at 35 mph. Quail at 40. But, you did say at the flush. Can you validate that? I've never shot grouse, so I can't say I agree or not. But, what is the point?
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Ruffed Grouse are hunted in a woods. They often times flush behind some sort of obstruction. Many times all one sees is a flash/or glimpse. I used to be a pretty good grouse shot on the wing, but now that I am older and on medicare/social security, occasionally I can't even get my safety off before they are gone. Having hunted both grouse and wild quail for many years, in my opinion grouse are much harder to shoot than quail which mostly get up in more open areas.....no matter which bird is faster.
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I find quail much easier than grouse for all the reasons Buzz mentions. If you even stop to think about your mount and form, you are done so far as 90% of grouse opportunities go. Quail usually give me a long look and there are usually a good handful of them, so if I am am not on the first bird, the second, third, or 14th should do.
I am still looking for the biomechanical reasons straight stocks are faster. I do not see any difference. But weight and balance certainly make a difference and the physics for that is quite obvious.
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I have noticed grouse are very good at getting an obstruction between you and them after the flush.
I find woodcock much easier to get a bead on than a ruffed grouse. The only quail I have ever hunted were preserve birds, they flew, I have no idea if they flew well, having no other quail to compare them to. But, for sure, there was nothing in between me and those quail.
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