Lloyd, how are they ''clearly superior''? I do not see one iota of difference and I regularly switch between the two types, often in a single day whether hunting grouse or roosters. I used to own a straight grip 10, and its recoil was no better or worse for the grip.

If a gun fits, it fits when you cheek it. It is faster if it is shorter or lighter, but the grip is irrelevant to any of tha except a very small amount of weight.

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