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Bought a used Savage 311, 12ga in 1977. Cut the barrels to 24". Shot a lot of wild quail on Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene Texas with that gun. Great memories.


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1, ah am em bare assed to add mit dat ah did the same thang to my 311...

cept ah also had iron sights an sling swivels put on hit in ah misbegotten effort to create ah double deer gon...

course that was after I had over sanded the stock, which was after I cracked the wood when tightening the stock bolt...

however, what I did to that poor ole 311, is not the wurst of sins...for which one day, ah will half to atone...

they say confession is good for the soul...

I feel better that I finally told someone what I did...

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keep it simple and keep it safe...
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The first was a Stoeger 12 ga for cowboy shooting, very much an entry level gun that got sold after I bought a Winchester 1897 for cowboy shooting.

The second was a Spanish 10 ga that a previous owner had chopped the barrels to 20" which gets used for cowboy shooting with heavy BP loads. A serviceable gun, but not one that would a person start buying other doubles.

What set me down the path of nice double guns was a I. Hollis hammered 10 ga that I picked up at a very low price because the wrist had broken and been fixed with a piece of brass or copper put around the wrist and screwed into the wood.

I now have 3 10 ga, 3 16 ga and 6 12 ga SxS


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Chantry, I would say it's time for you to go shopping.

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Perry,
I believe that I purchased the trade label from CSM or Jeff's outfitters. Hope this helps.
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I had been hunting and shooting for over 25 years before the double thing got me. Technically the first was my great grandfather's 1909 Fox A grade 12 ga. But the first I bought was a Utica Fox Sterlingworth 16 gauge with ejectors. Circa 1935. Lots of later Fox crudeness to it but it sure lived up to expectations for handling. Loved that gun. Finally sold it when I decided that I'd rather find an extractor Fox 16.


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Originally Posted by eightbore
Chantry, I would say it's time for you to go shopping.

Haven't see anything I want that I an afford recently. And I can spent money without anyone's help! laugh

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First side by side was a Winchester 23 12ga with fixed modified and full chokes, bought new with a Winchester case for $912 at Gart Brothers in Denver in 1985. I loved that gun, shot everything from quail to geese with it until steel shot came in around five or six years later IIRC. Havent shot anything but side by sides since.

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1958, a Model 24 Winchester 20 gauge, mint condition, $50.00 at Don's Gun Shop in Falls Church, VA. 1960, a VH Parker 28 gauge, $130.00. Private purchase at my gun club. Still have the Parker 65 years later.

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Originally Posted by Karl Graebner
Perry,
I believe that I purchased the trade label from CSM or Jeff's outfitters. Hope this helps.
Karl
Thanks Karl. I will look at those two sources.


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