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I have several older bolt rifles I would like to mount period vintage scopes on. Current projects are a model 722 Remington with Stith, Master Mounts. I do not have a Kollmorgen scope but do have a B&L BALvar 8 & an 8A. I located a 1" Stith Ring assy but the flat spring is too long to let the ring set between the two mounts/bases. Were there different length springs for the ring? These scopes have no internal adjustments.

The other projects are Mauser 98 actions and will use B&L/Kuharsky bases. There are two types of ring sets. One uses a set of rings on a flat rail that attached to one base with a star/thumb screw. The other is a set of rings made as a single unit with a spring loaded plunger that holds the scope down to the bases but provides quick release and a good return to zero. What are the pros and cons to each type?

I recently learned that the Tasco model 703 was made under a US Government contract in the mid 1970's. It is a 10x38 scope with no internal adjustments. Has anyone here had any experience with this scope or information on the REALTRAIN program it was ordered and used for.

Thank you.

I'm pretty sure usual mounts for the Balvar were very specific to the gun type.
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Don't know about the Stilth or how it would work for a scope with no internal adjustments.

These early Balvar scopes work well with older guns and Kuharski/B&L bases. Once adjusted, they stay on point very well…

Shrapnel,

Your B&L/Kuharsky topped rifles are the vintage look I am after.

The Stith Master bases are near the same as the B&L bases. They space a bit farther apart than the B&L and are designed for a 26mm tube but the 1" tube sits in them just a tad lower. I will need to make a new flat spring for the ring to let the assy fit together. I may find a. Stith/Kollmorgen scope also so the whole assembly matches.

Thanks, John

I like the look of vintage scopes on older rifles, too. This is my 1947 Husqvarna .220 Swift with vintage Weaver 10X.

I love vintage scopes, but my collection is aimed towards old external adjustment target scopes. Scopes like Fecker, Lyman Targetspot, Unertl, Stevens, Winchester, Souther, Sidle, AWW Peterson, etc. Many of my old single shot rifles have these mounted on them, and I love the way the work, and look on old scheutzen rifles.

I wanted an external adjustment classic scope for the Swift at first. But, I was offered the Weaver which was within a year or two of the same vintage as the rifle and decided to go with it. It has a clean "look" and is in mint condition.

It's a truck gun that I carry for crows, mostly. Big fun to knock over a crow at 200-300 yards.

I've got a Lyman LWBR 25X with tall turrets that I had on it for awhile, but it's just a little much for the Swift sporter.

I was able to locate a Stith/Kollmorgen 6X scope with the proper ring assembly and the wear bands. Just got it set into the mounts. Very clear optics and fine cross hairs. Hope I can get it dialed in soon.

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I still use a Balvar 8 on one of my coyote hunting 22-250s, for a cleaner look I mounted mine in a one piece Leupold standard mount and can adjust windage with the mount screws and elevation I shim the base for major changes and greases hard paper in the ring. I've even used it in an Egg Shoot, I didn't win but made it to the final round.

I call it the "Turret Twisters Nightmare", most guys at the range have never seen a scope with out adjustments built in.