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After rereading all that junk I posted & more, me thinks Kutter is on the correct path & Schaefer sourced a H&R frame by some means & then a Liege tubeset & cobbled them both together. It was cheap, and became much cheaper. And it stays so today. It became cheap when mainland European barrels were sourced for an Anson and Deeley boxlock, built under the supervision of Westley Richards. Me, I’d speculate the H&R suffered tubes that were destroyed in the era of conversion from black to smokeless powder, and somebody got it working with a surplus Belgian set of tubes. That is exactly what I meant by “monkeyed”. An actual H&R, without question marks from Belgium stamped into the tubes, is still a valuable gun, here. https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...-richards-10ga-blne.cfm?gun_id=103220263That said, per usual, ed is dreaming. Best, Ted
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