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Does anyone know what kind of extractor set up this is?

No idea what it’s called or who patented this arrangement, but my Holloway and Co. BLNE Waterfowling gun is set up exactly like it.

Top pic is a Holloway marked BLNE I found on the internet . Bottom pic is my H.Jones Wrexham marked BLNE (I’m guessing made by Holloway).
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have never seen this set-up prior to your photos - and a quick look at the indexes of the crudgington & baker books has shown no light.

i assume this is spring loaded inside the forearm frame, and would seem to promote a constant pressure against the action pin, rather than depending upon the usual bearing on the forearm against the knuckle - looks useful and clever to me.

The extractor you picture is the ubiquitous mechanism found on huge numbers of British guns, mainly boxlocks but also some sidelocks and hammerguns.
I don't believe there is any patent for it. It is linked to the action by the bumps on each side which mesh with recesses in the action. It isn't sprung, it just slides/rotates in the forend knuckle and, as the barrels drop, it pushes the extractor back with the cartridges in tow.

My WJ Jeffery 28b blne is set up like this. I like this system on an extractor gun.

I have an Italian box lock, and a Spanish box lock with the identical design. Have seen many, many more. Well fitted, they work forever.

Best,
Ted

How does the lug rotate/integrate into the forend knuckle?

Does anyone have an orphaned 12 bore forend metal (with or without wood) like the one pictured they want to sell?