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![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/RqWznJi.jpeg) German hammer gun. Can't make out proof marks. A big confused. Converted it looks like bore of .633 unless I'm doing it wrong. Chokes of circa .602 ??
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Did I do the bore measurements incorrectly? Thought 16 would be circa .662.
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Bore is 16.1 mm = .633"
19 gauge is .626"
18 gauge is .637"
L choke is 15.3 = .602"
R choke is 15.5 = .610"
Could it be Japanese? That may be a Miroku maker's mark on the L flat and they made some 18g
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Bore is 16.1 mm = .633"
19 gauge is .626"
18 gauge is .637"
L choke is 15.3 = .602"
R choke is 15.5 = .610"
Could it be Japanese? That may be a Miroku maker's mark on the L flat and they made some 18g No clue. Here is a link. I have no plan on bidding, but the lack of proof marks on a German gun threw me and then the bore diameter really threw me. https://hibid.com/lot/259825792/german-sxs-20ga-exposed-hammers-engraved?ref=catalog
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To me it looks Italian, maybe Spanish, during WWII or right after where Krupp 3 Ringe Stahl was repurposed to another gunmaking centre. Those odd marks on the water-table & on the top of the flats are the clues. Plus there's a mark forward of the 1400 gramme stamp.
It is a Fine Hammer Double
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I think your math is fine, but the add says 20 bore.
Worthy of measurements for sure.
Very thick breech walls.
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Tut.
Without addressing this particular gun, a German (any)gun that was intended for use in Germany had to have German or other acceptable proof marks. A German gun intended for export to another country did not require German proofs.
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Maybe this is an 18 gauge shotgun?
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There's a thread around here somewhere that has a few Italian assembled guns of German Components during or right after the 2nd Major Disagreement in Europe. I will dig when I have a minute..
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