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Sorry if this is repeat, but it looks like labour is beginning a 3 year rollout of lead shot banning in UK beginning next year. Did the people vote for this?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/officials-announce-swifter-expected-ban-103042934.html

The end of lead in the UK is scheduled for 2029. This includes rifle bullets 243 diameter and up. This is Dig’s discussion on the topic posted a couple of weeks ago.

UK Ban

Ken

You say “people” as if they were citizens, and not subjects.

That annoyance out of the way, perhaps the subjects have bigger fish to fry?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...says-probing-194-complaints-scandal.html

Hard to be concerned ‘aboot lead shot when the local constabulary is helping the recent immigrants gang rape your children.

Best,
Ted

Coming to the US soon

Since the topic of this thread is a ban, how soon is "your" soon?

The Department of Natural Resources, in the state of Minnesota, thought they would run a pious end game around the legislature a few years past, that resulted in a shit storm of opposition showing up, en mass, to the public meetings. They tried having meetings at 5:00pm, knowing working stiffs would have a tough time making them, and they had at least one at noon in the middle of the week.

No go. Their claim it was “inevitable” came back and bit them right in the ass. Except for the leftist D-bags who are running the corrupt state at the moment, trying to force high school trap leagues to use non toxic shot, it has been quiet, of late.

May it ever be so.

Best,
Ted

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Please chaps, don't believe a thing you read in the Daily Mail! Let me hasten to add, I am not being an apologist for our police or the grooming gangs, rather that the Mail is well known to sensationalise most of it's stories, sometimes, allegedly, with the truth!

Back on topic, the whole lead ban issue is a debacle. The science is bad, the lobbying is bad, the politics is bad, the legislation is bad. Or at least, it is to me. I do not want a lead ban in my country. I am not convinced the alternatives to lead have the same lethality and, yup, I know that steel has been used for decades in wetlands and I understand why it is used, but I remain, as I say, unconvinced. I am loath to put steel, bismuth, bioblue or any other alternative through my ancient Victorian SxSs and, yup, I know you can and have read all the advice about how to, when to and where to, but I remain, as I say, loath to.

What I am saying is that, in what is left of our free world, regardless of the arguments for the lead ban, my take on it is that I do not want it. It may be a subjective take on my part, I may be accused of ignoring this or that, but I am still allowed to feel as I do. I am not making a case here for anyone else, I am merely speaking, or at least writing, on my own, yes, selfish, account. Which leaves me with the big decision on what I do about it.

I have shot all my life and am now 71years old, still in active good health, thank you dear Lord. I have been fortunate to shoot some very fine driven pheasant, partridge and just a small number of grouse in our green and pleasant land with some equally fine gentlemen and a few ladies. I've also enjoyed days walking hedgerows with dog and gun, flighting woodpigeon, duck and geese. I have in the distant past been on hare shoots and woodcock shoots. In a good season I have had around a dozen days at driven game, so I am not someone who shoots an awful lot each season, but I have been ever so fortunate to enjoy some marvellous days. I still shoot around four days a season and go to the clay ground once every two months or so to have some fun and keep my eye in. I still enjoy the anticipation of each of those days, the countryside and the people. As a pensioner I can no longer really afford to shoot much more than I do.

However, if the lead ban comes in in 2029, as it looks as if it will, I think I shall retire from the field and enjoy reminiscing about those days afield, by reading through my game book and remembering those shots, that corner of a wood, that stand out in the open, that wooded peg with snap shots, that retrieve by my dog, those happy times with my father, family and friends. My children and grandchildren do not share my passion for the sport, so I have no one close to pass my great grandfathers gun on to, or my very modest collection of other guns. I shall be sad but grateful for those happy days afield.

Tim

Tim, a “like” from me would not do justice to your clear and heartfelt sad rehearsal of a fine sporting life soon to be lost. It’s painful to read your words, “ I think I shall retire from the field…”. Your countryman's words, though written about looming death in the context of the vibrancy of life, come to mind and actually seem, in a way, appropriate to what your and your mates are facing just ahead: “Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”

This might seem an expected word from a “rebellious colonial” but from this side of the pond it would seem that while you may not be able to change the course you can refuse to “go gentle.”

(And in so doing you might find you actually do change what seems inevitable.)

Tim, It's sad to hear you have no desendents that would like to have your shooting stuff. I'm 72 and still shooting and though Dorothee and I had no children, my sisters sons are very much shooters and sportsmen. They are interested in all the family sporting paraphernalia. I was recently given the bird hunting coat(in great shape) of my grandfather's. It was in possession of my first cousins widow. I gave it to one of my nephews sons. He is thrilled to be able to wear his great, great grandfather's coat while grouse and woodcock hunting.