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" I would say that normally, the majority of flinching is caused by an explosion so close to someone's face."
I have to second this and surprisingly only mentioned once in 3 pages of discussion. A few years back I was at the SHOT SHOW range day with the opportunity to shoot a number of things that are a criminal offense in Canada. I sat down at a bench and hefted a 300 Win Mag with a suppressor. I had never shot a gun with a suppressor before. First round I had a slight flinch mostly due to anticipation of what might occur. But that first round was an amazing eye opener. On the rest of the shots I nailed exactly what I was shooting at with no flinch and a totally relaxed shooting stance. Then the big epiphany. Without that big explosion and noise I had no mental adversion. I reloaded the magazine and shot off another 5 rounds and was quite flabbergasted at not realizing the sound of a gun firing was way more adverse than the recoil. After that I started wearing ear plugs with ear muffs over top to minimize the noise and I found I was totally relaxed while shooting not fearing the big bang.
I also believe recoil is over exaggerated. My wife of 95lbs had never shot a gun when we married. I taught her to shoot trap but first spent a long time with minor caliber guns getting her mount and stance just right. It was not about the recoil. She doesn't flinch and the recoil never bothers her because she understands how to absorb it properly. And she occasionally shoots 3" steel waterfowl loads with no problem. I get a tickle when someone with a +125lb 12 year old kid is looking for a 410 so the recoil won't hurt him.
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[quote=Ken Nelson] I would figure out WHY HE IS FLINCHING. [quote]
Well Jimmy, …are you saying you have this expertise???? Are you saying that you do? And yes, I worked my way through a handgun flinch using Elmer Keith's method like I previously said. But I never had a consistent flinch with a shotgun before now. So, yes, I have always been able to figure out why I flinch with a shotgun and been able to correct it in a short period of time. I don't worry about an occasional flinch that happens once in a few months. I think that is a common thing for anyone. I didn't ask if you could figure out your own flinch. You stated that you would diagnose someone else’s flinch. Read Dr. Drew’s post…he’s done an appreciable amount of study on flinching.It’s not a simple manner to diagnose.
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[quote=Ken Nelson] I would figure out WHY HE IS FLINCHING. [quote]
Well Jimmy, …are you saying you have this expertise???? Are you saying that you do? And yes, I worked my way through a handgun flinch using Elmer Keith's method like I previously said. But I never had a consistent flinch with a shotgun before now. So, yes, I have always been able to figure out why I flinch with a shotgun and been able to correct it in a short period of time. I don't worry about an occasional flinch that happens once in a few months. I think that is a common thing for anyone. I didn't ask if you could figure out your own flinch. You stated that you would diagnose someone else’s flinch. Read Dr. Drew’s post…he’s done an appreciable amount of study on flinching.It’s not a simple manner to diagnose. 
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Some flinching (like mine) has nothing to do with recoil.
I love the people that "know how to cure it" if you could, you could make a hell of a lot of money.
Fact is. NO ONE really knows what causes it, or how to fix it. I don't believe this at all. I would say that normally, the majority of flinching is caused by an explosion so close to someone's face. And I believe that a lot of people can work through a flinch if that is the reason. You are saying that your flinch has nothing to do with recoil. So, if you know what ISN'T causing your flinch, are you saying that you DO know what IS causing your flinch? Because later on in your statement you say that NO ONE KNOWS WHAT CAUSES IT. Some people know exactly why they flinch. I believe a flinch can be caused by numerous things. And it is impossible to be telling someone on the internet how to overcome what is wrong with the way they are shooting. I don't see anyone on here saying that they can cure his flinch. They can only give suggestions. And yes, Justanothajoe, I believe there are people who can work with someone and help them cure a flinch. Or someone can work through a flinch, themselves. There is an internet full of suggestions to help people by very experienced shooters. So, let's just wait and see how Nitrah does. Good luck. You don't believe it? so what, I live it. You are another that hasn't lived it but knows how to cure it. I have had numerous "experts" tell me they could help my flinch, none did. If recoil causes my flinch, why does a release trigger fix it? isn't the gun still recoiling? The other group says its visual problem causing it, how does a release trigger fix the visual problem? So everyone (that doesn't flinch) knows what causes it but doesn't know how a release trigger fixes it.
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Update: I had a friend in town who loves to shoot but hardly gets out anymore. I used my BR 550 410 and just shot report pairs because I wanted him to feel comfortable shooting targets he had never seen before and a gun he had never used before. We typically shoot 2 pairs at each station then switch guns and go again. We were 2/3 around the course when my friend asks " have you missed yet?" Thanks buddy, I dropped the next 2 targets and missed 1 more in the round. I think between shooting 410 and a heavier gun with light loads I am working my way past the flinch.
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I was talking with a buddy this weekend and he apologized for not shooting (shotguns) with me because of his flinch. He said he’s even flinching with his .410.
We shot a M1 Garand Match (which he won) and never flinched. He’s a very good off hand shot.
Go figure.
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