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These Needhams are fascinating to me. Way ahead of their time.

Strange, it could have been further improved to be a full cocker.

I can understand how you might think that but...I've found that I like non-rebounding hammers (much easier to cock from halfway, right?) and this eliminates the big downside of needing to address the hammers before opening the gun after use.

From a purely hunting perspective, this one hits the mark for me. A unique and simple solution in my mind.

Here's mine, a Siace 350G. A self cocker with ejectors and tang safety. There's an Interesting story about this one. This one is one of my favorites!




Stay well my friends

Greg

Somebody needs to get to work on a single selective trigger and an automatic safety for this…..


Best,
Ted

Here is a Fukert self cocking gun. It has an incredible number of locking mechanisms. The opening of the gun brings it to full cock. The tang safety takes care of the rest.

Tell us the story, Greg.

OK, here goes. I bought this from a fellow on UJ got it, nice gun, but kind of heavy. The right ejector was weak, but workered. I shot it well, but at 7-2 it was just to heavy for upland work. Sold it off, then regretted it. Dummy me could have lightened up and fixed the ejector.....I had sellers remorse.

About 2 years later, got an email from someone who had bought the gun from the fellow I originally sold it to. He wanted to know if I wanted to buy it again. Well...I jumped on it! Got the gun and was surprised that the fellow I sold it to had the ejector fixed and lightened to 6-12. Couldn't be happier.

The good thing is I bought it back for the same price I sold it. Guess I lucked out. Basically, I got an improved gun that is easy to carry and I still shoot it well.

I guess karma can also be good!

Stay well my friends

Greg

Good story! Like a buddy asked me once, "Do you know an omen when you see one?".

We had a hammer Siace come through the shop several years ago and while I thought it was pretty neat (& quite practical), it missed me a bit (simply too-modern for my tastes).

I'm so-drawn to the history of these earlier guns. I like the fact that they have survived (largely-intact) to this day, which is well-over 120-years and counting. Everything about them is unique (by modern standards)... in that the "creating" of them captured vast amounts of human time (that was solely-invested in their manufacture). From the damascus tubes (3-days, 3-men & ~30lbs of metal), to the original design and then the trial & error of all that hand-filing of the actions & hammers until they "worked", the hand-forming (shaping & balancing) & checkering, and then fitting of their lovely & mainly French-walnut stocks. I swear that you can somehow "see" that investment of nearly-endless human effort in them. For me, they absolutely "glow" from all the focused-human energy that was so-deftly put into them. The "browned" Best English 2 and 3-bar tubes, all of that incredibly-intricate engraving, and the bone-charcoal case colors (now mostly-faded with time) are honest and enduring "technologies" that are financially impossible to replicate these days (at least to that incredibly high-level of skill).

Modern weaponry does not have those attributes for me. Mass-production, even on a very limited scale, involves far-less human time in the creation of anything these days (as it arguably must). Fluid steel has become somewhat soulless to me now as well (I do use it & it works very well, but...) and most modern finishes (like "silvered" or anything anodized, and/or chemical-types of case-hardening) do not capture my imagination like they might-have once.

I have become more discerning, it seems. We stand on the shoulders of giants and so-many (nearly all anymore) are painfully unaware of that fact.

I hope I'm not around for the accounting.