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There must be a sweet spot for support of the tariff increases.
On most of the sportsman pages I read that are populated by retirees and regular workin* folks (regardless of current admin support or not)

The fresh conversations overwhelmingly focus on how much worse off their lives are, RIGHT NOW, due to inflation, and the tariff impacts.

Back in March-April most of the retirees were screaming about the 20% loss of their retirement funds that they live on.

Between inflation, and the tariffs, and the Wall Street gyrations, it’s gotta be tough to be on fixed income.

If the numbers don’t work I just won’t buy. Still working through the last 17 guns I imported. A couple were “for spares”, needing minor parts. Those cost under a hundred and required parts from 15-35 dollars to get running again. Bought a very nice 11/87 Premier which I now have less than $400 in including auction price, import fee, taxes and parts. Take a good look at guns labeled for spares.

Ejector doubles are still cheap and non ejectors are almost worthless. Soft market, I expect to only get softer with the tariffs. So I might not. It much for six months to give things a chance to settle. Then just include 10% for tariffs in your price you are going to pay. I don’t mind known cost because I can decide if I want to pay them. I hate hidden or surprise fees which bite me on the …..

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The EU utilizes various non-tariff barriers (NTBs) that can hinder US exports. These include stringent regulatory requirements, technical barriers to trade (TBTs), sanitary and phytosanitary (SPS) measures, and differing product standards. These measures, while often presented as public policy protections, can significantly increase costs and complexity for US businesses attempting to access the EU market.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Regulatory Barriers:
Technical Barriers to Trade (TBTs):
These involve product standards, testing, and certification requirements that can differ significantly between the EU and the US. For example, the EU's push for the "CE" marking (conformité Européenne) on products sold in the EU can create compliance challenges for US manufacturers.
Sanitary and Phytosanitary (SPS) Measures:
These are regulations aimed at protecting human, animal, and plant health. While intended to ensure safety, they can be used to restrict imports, such as bans on hormone-treated beef or restrictions on GMOs, which disproportionately impact US agricultural exports.
Rules of Origin:
These determine the "nationality" of a product, which can affect tariffs and access to certain markets. Complex or burdensome rules of origin can create obstacles for US exporters.
2. Other NTBs:
Bureaucratic hurdles:
Excessive paperwork, complex customs procedures, and slow processing times can create significant delays and costs for US businesses.
Discriminatory tax treatments:
While not always explicitly discriminatory, differing VAT rates and other tax policies can create unfair competitive advantages for EU businesses.
Local content requirements:
These mandate that a certain percentage of a product's components or manufacturing must be sourced locally. This can disadvantage US companies that rely on global supply chains.
Failure to respect intellectual property rights:
Weak enforcement of intellectual property rights can discourage innovation and trade.
Forced technology transfers:
Requiring companies to transfer technology or intellectual property as a condition of market access is a serious barrier.
3. Impact on US-EU Trade:
Increased costs:
Complying with diverse regulations and navigating bureaucratic processes can significantly raise the cost of exporting to the EU.
Reduced market access:
NTBs can effectively block access to the EU market for certain US products, even if there are no tariffs.
Unfair competition:
NTBs can create an uneven playing field, favoring EU companies that are more familiar with the regulations and have established local operations.
Trade imbalances:
The EU's trade surplus with the US, partly fueled by NTBs, can exacerbate trade tensions between the two economic giants.
4. Examples of Specific NTBs:
EU's Digital Markets Act and Digital Services Act:
These regulations are designed to curb the dominance of large tech companies, but critics argue they disproportionately target US tech giants.
EU's Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism:
This mechanism, designed to address carbon leakage, imposes a carbon tax on imports based on their carbon footprint, potentially disadvantaging US industries with carbon-intensive supply chains.
EU's differing food safety standards:
The EU has stricter regulations on food safety than the US, which can lead to the rejection of US food products at the border due to issues like aflatoxin levels in nuts or the use of certain ingredients.


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It’s about time we get some cool rules, or we’re going to be bogus too. Jeff Spicoli

Despite me falling into the age bracket that includes retirees, I have little sympathy. It is they who reaped the benifits of that came from previous misguided administrations. They are the ones who voted for, again and again, out of control deficit spending. If the measures to correct things partly fall harshly on them, well they asked for it.

It’s time to pay the piper.

Well, we clearly have not seen an end to over spending relative to income, so no meaningfulnchange there, and most of the budget cutting will cost us more down the road.

That is okay though. It is your grandchildren that will pay the piper.

I’m not against continuously re-imagining trade deals. Or any other arrangements we allow our representatives to enter into on our behalf.
It just feels better when there’s the impression they know what they are doing.

It’s like re-quoting various insurances every year. Or reviewing Medicare advantage plans.
I consider it good business.

I’m lucky, I was able to jump over the ditch and get a new Audi out of the deal.
Near as I can tell, lots of others? Maybe not so much.

An increase in the cost of a plaything after import isn’t really in the same category as an unplanned for decrease of 20% on a retirement portfolio.

The DOW today is pretty strong. If you didn’t sell on the way down you haven’t lost anything

Upland Gun Company is added 10% to the gun prices to cover the tariffs, Caesar Guerini the same. I think it might be more of a factor for folks buying the less expensive guns than the higher price guns.

John
Quality Arms

Or buy American made products and avoid the tarif issues!

A mute point... hahahaha! What's the matter Princess SKB Stevie, has your Trump Derangement Syndrome made you unable to speak?

And what on earth does it mean when you say you paid off your house and "entire semi-retirement." Have you been hitting the bong?

For some reason, I just don't believe that a tariff that may or may not be passed on to the consumer of some imported goods is more costly and more detrimental to a larger number of citizens of the U.S., than the Inflation caused by Biden Administration fiscal policy that has increased the cost of food, fuel, utilities, vehicles, houses, rent, and virtually all other consumer goods. Bidenflation not only caused prices to spike by better than 25%, but it also reduced the value of any cash based investments, and reduced the value of wages.

I wish I could say I'm sorry to hear that Trump tariffs may have negatively affected your business, but I'm not. It seems very likely that his tariffs and subsequent foreign trade deals and reinvestment in U.S jobs will help far more people than it will hurt. And like Biden's people told the Keystone Pipeline workers who lost their jobs, you could always learn to code... On the other hand, an imbecile who can't spell "moot" or "enter" won't likely have the ability to write code.

And it is interesting to see you are able to post about your "once thriving" import business... yet you are still unable to tell us whether you pay Dave the $12.00 fee for each and every import job that resulted from the continual Free Tagline Advertising you do here. We all see your free advertising... along with your recent cry for help in your Tagline. It should be a simple matter to tell us whether you pay Dave the $12.00 fee for sales resulting from that advertising... Unless you have something to hide.