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What applies to a gun for direct ship #662175 06/24/25 10:57 AM
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 1,134 Likes: 19 Maine RARiddell OP Sidelock
OP RARiddell Sidelock Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 1,134 Likes: 19 Maine	I have a pre 1885 shotgun I’m thinking of selling, would the gun have to be in original condition for a direct ship? Would modifications like sleeved barrels put this in non compliance for direct ship?

Re: What applies to a gun for direct ship RARiddell #662176 06/24/25 12:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 3,619 Likes: 1028 Parker, Colorado Lloyd3 Sidelock
Lloyd3 Sidelock Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 3,619 Likes: 1028 Parker, Colorado	Don't bother to ask permission or you'll be sorry you did. Just ship it and forget it. Most ATF types wouldn't know a sleeved barrel even if they were hit over the head with it.
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Re: What applies to a gun for direct ship RARiddell #662178 06/24/25 12:40 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 426 Likes: 104 North Carolina CJF Sidelock
CJF Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 426 Likes: 104 North Carolina	I’ve never heard of anything changing the antique status of a gun. That can happen with a Curio and Relic, but to my knowledge, not whether it is pre-1898 or not.

Re: What applies to a gun for direct ship RARiddell #662179 06/24/25 12:43 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 816 Likes: 65 Currently in Virginia OldMaineWoodsman Sidelock
OldMaineWoodsman Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 816 Likes: 65 Currently in Virginia	If it was originally manufactured in or before 1898 it is an "antique firearm" under the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA). I would think that sleeved barrels would have nothing to do with this definition.

Re: What applies to a gun for direct ship RARiddell #662180 06/24/25 12:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,519 Likes: 572 Iowa BrentD, Prof Sidelock
BrentD, Prof Sidelock Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,519 Likes: 572 Iowa	The receiver is the "gun", legally. It is still pre99. I agree with Llord on this one. _________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) =>/

Re: What applies to a gun for direct ship RARiddell #662181 06/24/25 01:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 816 Likes: 65 Currently in Virginia OldMaineWoodsman Sidelock
OldMaineWoodsman Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 816 Likes: 65 Currently in Virginia	ATF did actually take it upon itself to quietly modify the definition of an "antique firearm." It mainly has to do with conversion cylinders and or devices that allow a percussion revolver to fire modern type, center-fire ammunition. Last edited by OldMaineWoodsman; 06/24/25 01:11 PM.

Re: What applies to a gun for direct ship RARiddell #662182 06/24/25 01:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,135 Likes: 125 nh mostly ed good Sidelock
ed good Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,135 Likes: 125 nh mostly	consider this... legally, it is antique, even with sleeved barrels... shotguns can be dangerous weapons... ship to third party, unless person you are shipping to is trusted friend... otherwise, gun could fall into wrong hands with devastating results... better safe, than sorry... keep it simple and keep it safe...

Re: What applies to a gun for direct ship OldMaineWoodsman #662183 06/24/25 01:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,519 Likes: 572 Iowa BrentD, Prof Sidelock
BrentD, Prof Sidelock Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,519 Likes: 572 Iowa	Originally Posted by OldMaineWoodsman ATF did actually take it upon itself to quietly modify the definition of an "antique firearm." It mainly has to do with conversion cylinders and or devices that allow a percussion revolver to fire modern type, center-fire ammunition. What about pre 99 cartridge rifles and pistols? There were plenty of them. _________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) =>/

Re: What applies to a gun for direct ship RARiddell #662184 06/24/25 01:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 816 Likes: 65 Currently in Virginia OldMaineWoodsman Sidelock
OldMaineWoodsman Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 816 Likes: 65 Currently in Virginia	Correct, those are still "antique firearms" based on the fact that they were originally manufactured in or before 1898. The modification applies to taking a percussion revolver and modifying it to fire modern ammunition. A Colt Single Action Army, originally manufactured in or before 1898, but can fire modern, .45 Colt ammunition is still an "antique firearm." A Ruger Old Army percussion revolver, firing loose black powder and ball or bullet via a percussion cap is an "antique firearm." A Ruger Old Army percussion revolver, with a conversion cylinder installed, allowing it to fire modern, .45 Colt ammunition is now a "firearm" under the GCA. Last edited by OldMaineWoodsman; 06/24/25 02:17 PM.

Re: What applies to a gun for direct ship RARiddell #662188 06/24/25 05:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 3,619 Likes: 1028 Parker, Colorado Lloyd3 Sidelock
Lloyd3 Sidelock Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 3,619 Likes: 1028 Parker, Colorado	Funny. I bought a New Model Army Remington black powder during Covid just so I could do that. Kind-of fun to shoot. So much for that dodge now. Last edited by Lloyd3; 06/24/25 05:22 PM.

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