In reviewing records, based on the above pin-fire 10456, I've had to take a second look at the Reilly pin-fire shotgun 10458. I originally thought 10458 was converted from a muzzle loader to a center-break gun probably in the mid 1860's with a Jones U-L. However it may in fact be an original U-L Reilly pin-fire from December 1857, the first Reilly "Beringer style" under-the-guard lever pin-fire. Here is comparison of the engraving on 10456 and 10458. That wouldn't prove much except to date their engravings but the possibility is truly interesting:

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And here is 10458
10458
https://www.holtsauctioneers.com/as...916++++906+&refno=103055&image=2
September 2016 : Sale A0916 Lot 906
E. M. REILLY, LONDON 
A 12-BORE PINFIRE DOUBLE-BARRELLED SPORTING-GUN, serial no. 10458, 
circa 1870, with twist iron 30in. browned barrels, the top rib signed 'E. M. REILLY 502 NEW OXFORD STREET LONDON, the breech-ends engraved with starbursts around the pin slots and scroll engraving to the rib-end, fully engraved long top-tang with sighting groove and carved percussion fences, border and scroll engraved action and locks, the latter signed 'REILLY, LONDON', chequered walnut butt-stock with engraved heel & toe-plates, Jones-type swing under-lever with ring thumb-piece, chequered walnut splinter fore-end and engraved iron furniture. 
Estimate £600-800

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The Reilly's used at the 1858 trials were all Lang-Lefaucheax forward facing U-L's but the Beringer style was known. A Reilly gun sketched in 1859 has an under-the-trigger guard lever; Note one bite - clearly not a Jones U-L:
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