Yeah, it was kind of sad that in the end, Jerry knew he didn't have time to copy my NYS files while he allowed me to copy his. While I was copying though, Larry Schuknecht made a recorded interview while he quizzed him in great detail about the doublegun makers. When Jerry's files are contrasted to mine, not only is the style different, it becomes evident how far away from definitive both works are. Where Swinney focused on geneological detail, I went for total number of entries. A semi-complete chronicle of NYS makers has yet to be complied, and may not happen in my lifetime. There where so many New York state gunmakers and gunsmiths that even Swinney's work and mine together probably wouldn't cover 30%. There is still room for another generation of future researchers/compilers . Which reminds me...I should probably get back to work...