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Most bismuth and tungsten is imported from China, I suspect the market will be flooded with old doubles soon.

Well...it's here:








As I suspected, this Quality A weighs 8 lbs 11.5 ounces. From going over it here, I can see it needs a deeper cleaning, but... this will have to do for now.

These tubes likely weigh over 5-lbs. I'm going to try to take it downtown tomorrow and measure it properly.

Clean, old, gun.

Good luck with it.

Best,
Ted

Thanks Ted, no grouse gun this. Geese maybe.

Dueling sets of "bolsters" on this big and heavy gun...



Randy, does this count as a 1901 "Double Thick Nitro-Breech" gun?



That 32-inch "Fine English Twist" tubeset weighs 4lbs12 all by itself, with the splinter included it's 5lbs on the nose.

I'd have bitten also, even though I dont need it. Those are the thickest breech walls I've seen, even on my 3 frame 10 ga. Parker hammer. A duck and goose gun for sure with 32 inch tubes. The trick now is finding a decent place to hunt. We used to shoot them east of Buckley, off Gun Club Road, but that's all gone with development. So is Bonney Reservoir. See what kinds of patterns it throws with Bismuth 2's. Don't use many shells. $$$

From what I can see in your photos, definitely. I’m not home now but I do have the measurements for my “twin” gun and a standard weight NIG of that era and I’ll post them for you later.

Lloyd, check you PM.

I looked through my vintage ads and this is the earliest "Heavy Breech" ad I found. 1884 L.C. Smith Maker, Syracuse



I have an 1899 Baker Gun & Forging ad touting their "wide heavy breech" on the hammerless.

The earliest Ithaca "double thick nitro breech" ad was 1901 with the introduction of the Lewis model. I don't have any Crass ads with that statement.

Lefever went another direction. This is from 1903. "No thicker frame than an ordinary hammer gun."

I remember reading an older post about an
Ithaca 10ga with one of its barrels twist and other fluid steel( owners had no idea) that had been subjected to many modern 3.5” nitro magnum shell over its life. I would imagine those(yours) barrels are hell for stout!
Nice gun I hope to see a pic of it with some honkers laying next to it.