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And even better . . . . no JB Weld needed. Good conclusion.


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Originally Posted by awenger
I am much more of a lurker on this site than an active commenter, but that butt plate looks pretty similar to those on AH Fox shotguns. CSMC sells modern reproductions of Fox shotguns. The reproduction butt plates are made of the same material originally used on the old guns. I bought one of Galazans Butt plates from CSMC to repair my butt plate on my A H Fox (Grade A made in 1927). I had to learn to gently heat the material to better fit the slight curve of the butt stock.That can be done in heated water or with a heat gun (be gentle) However, after messing with it and getting the curve correct on the plate, I simply sized it by hand using files and sand paper while I had the Fox butt stock taped off. (Theoretically, it can be done on a belt sander ...but I wasn't risking damage to the stock by sanding too aggressively.). When completed, polish the sanded edges. FYI, I have fit pads to modern shotguns before with a similar technique. It turned out great. Not only does it look original, it fits flush and perfectly. I think the plate was only something like 20 bucks or so plus maybe shipping (it has been probably 10 or more years....keep that in mind). You will have to measure all the butt dimensions plus the hole spacing before ordering.
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Flogging a bit of a "dead-horse" here today but...WTH (meaning "heck", & not the other alternatives). This new aftermarket and unfitted "thick" buttplate clearly doesn't fit "exactly", but it's close enough to allow for me to shoot it for a bit (in preparation for the upcoming "Vintager" shoot in Whittington in late April). It'll all be covered by a slip-on pad anyway (still need that extra length [and the added cushioning doesn't hurt either]).

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So-close and yet so far, eh? I will eventually have to get a real gunsmith to help me shape things a little better (it will likely require a stock refinish) and then definitely "fix" those mounting screws (recut the slots and index them). The gun is long-enough now to make it line-up for me even better than it did before (you take the good with the bad anymore, right?). With the proper loads (mostly mid-range speed and 1-ounce), this gun is simply great on clays for me

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Gutta Percha and Bakelite look so different (in this really-unflattering lighting). Both guns are laying flat on my desk, with the breeches aligned. Not hard to see the difference in drop and stock-width between these two Smith guns (a 1901 hammer and a 1890 hammerless). Seen just above and here, the later Elsies (post 1898?) have noticeably less drop (and the hammer-guns have much narrower actions). With the hammers being on the outside, less stock-width is needed, right?

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From a different perspective. Those two books on the desk are the latest "tools of the trade" in the LC Smith world. Before them, this was a pretty tough subject to sort out.

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Thank you Jimmy.

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