Thanks Stephen. I've written Holt's to see if there is a PUN. Needham's patent it almost certainly is. I'll post Holt's answer here. And sorry about the political rants - Looks like there's nothing to be done but try to ignore it. Gene

Edit: Holt's has replied. Their photos show their gun is indeed identical to Diggory's pictures. Interesting that it has a "Joseph Brazier Ashes" Action:
"I can't be sure if the photos Diggory sent to you are this gun as I haven't seen them, however photos are attached. As you can see it does seem to conform to the Needham patent 1544 of 1862 however there is no use number marked on the gun. The action bar is only marked 'JOSEPH BRAZIER ASHES.' and '13394'."

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