If I cut the petals off a Pattern Control orange wad, I can get about .800 ounce of shot in a 3" Remington shell. I think if I cut 1/2 of the petals, I could still get an honest 3/4 of an ounce. With an unmodified wad, I get the factory 11/16 ounce of shot. I think these are #8 shot. Too cold to shoot patterns. I may find out that the petals improve the pattern a lot....or not.