Originally Posted by canvasback
First of all, it's not a vaccine as we have come to use that word over the last 100 some odd years. It's closer to gene splicing.

Second, despite early claims, it didn't stop anyone from getting Covid and it didn't stop transmission.

It may have reduced severity of symptoms is some patients. Just as Ivermectin and HCQ would have had they been allowed at the time.

Third, it's now clear, that a wildly under-tested "vaccine", mandated in many jurisdictions, has caused health problems significant enough that in normal circumstances, it would never have been approved. That's the science.

It is also clear that it was a man made virus, resulting from gain of function research, from a lab in China, significantly funded in it's research by USAID and other entities, including some Dr Fauci was involved with. That's the science!

I have a 29 year old nephew......no heart problem history, athletic and in perfect health, now with significant heart problems. Has been hospitalized twice. He wondered out loud one day, during a discussion with his cardiologist, if this sudden problem he had (this is after about 9 months of issues and several hospital stays) could have anything to do with the Covid vaccines he took. The Doctor put his file down, looked at my nephew and said "If you pursue that line of questioning any further, I will no longer treat you". That doesn't sound much like "science" to me.

Look at how many government officials and law enforcement people that were told no jab no work and now they are getting their back pay, that was unconstitutional for the government and local authorities to do so and glad they are getting back pay.
My wife and I were foolish and got the first set of jabs and not the rest and now I see problems happening to both of us, some because of age but I do believe the vaccinations are to blame. My two older grandchildren in college were told that they needed vaccinating or else could not attend, but the other 2 in middle school did not get the vaccine nor my daughter and son-in-law.

David